is canned tuna raw?

el guapo

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Some bacteria are harmful and some are not . Everything you eat carries a certain amount of bacteria on it . Your body its self could not exist with out certain kinds of bacteria that live in your digestive track that help to break down and aid in the diegestion of food .
You do realize that school does provide a place to educate yourself not just a place to meet and hang out with your friends .
 

alix2.0

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yeah thanks for that.
anyways, i just want to know what the difference is between fish and meat. my dad says that your body can digest fish more easily, and meat stays in your body longer. idk what that has to do with anything, but im sure its somehow relevant. do the animals that we eat, such as pigs, cows, deer, buffalo, squirrel, and birds carry more gross little parasites and diseases that are likely to transfer to humans? or what? i was just curious, i dont appreciate being insulted for asking a question.
 

el guapo

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What part of it do you not understand ?
Some bactiria is good for you ...... It causes you no harm .
Some bactiria is bad for you ........ It will make you very sick .
Everything contains bactiria some is just not enough to harm you .
 

try2wryte

Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2899020
Yes. It's called sushi.
Actually Sushi is merely vinegared rice, loosely translated it just means sour.... Sashimi on the other hand is the raw fish component of what Americans call sushi. FTR Sashimi means "pierced meat" in case anyone was wondering...
East Asian Civ. was my favorite course and nihongo ni hanashitte dekimasu (I can speak Japanese) sorta.....
 

mimzy

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Originally Posted by alix2.0
http:///forum/post/2899167
so fish dont contain harmful bacteria. thats all i was asking.
right. sooooo.... you can eat raw meat, as long as the meat was handled carefully and kept very cold and very clean, it's actually quite safe and quite fine to eat raw; there is a well known korean dish that includes raw meat with a fresh egg broken over it.

The concern comes in when the temperature goes above a certain point (40f), at which harmful bacteria begin to thrive and break down and decompose the meat; namely ecoli and other germies (including fungii) that can give us food poisoning.
the bacteria is generally a problem only AFTER the meat is harvested; generally we're not concerned about bacteria in living animals; there we're more concerned about parasites; which is really why you should still take every precaution and cook things as thoroughly as possible before eating them.
The trouble is, most meat is simply not handled as carefully as it needs to be once it's harvested in order to be safely eaten raw - ESPECIALLY ground meat; do not, EVER, eat raw or undercooked ground meat; whatever was on the surface of the meat has been ground up and innoculated throughout the entire mass of the protein, so now you can't even hope to wash some ickiness off and get away with eating it a little pink inside; as you can do with steak.
when you're dealing with pork, however, there are other concerns... pigs contract different and additional parasites & diseases from beef/venison/sheep, so it really needs to be cleaned thoroughly and cooked all the way through before you eat it, whether it's ground meat or not.
...same thing with poultry.
as for fish, sushi grade fish is superfresh and handled (well, we HOPE it's handled...) with super high standards and kept at low temperatures to prevent the decay of the flesh before it reaches your plate and your mouth.
A helpful tip; if you go to a sushi restaurant and it SMELLS like fish in there, TURN AROUND AND LEAVE. Truly fresh, truly sushi grade fish does not smell like fish AT ALL.
and kudos 2u 4 asking questions. if u don't ask, u don't know.
 

alix2.0

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wow, thanks for taking the time to type that out mimz! that was totally the kind of answer i was looking for. i totally understand. and yeah, raw ground beef sounds pretty much terrifying.
 

try2wryte

Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2899020
Yes. It's called sushi.

Originally Posted by alix2.0

http:///forum/post/2899159
yeah thanks for that.
anyways, i just want to know what the difference is between fish and meat. my dad says that your body can digest fish more easily, and meat stays in your body longer. idk what that has to do with anything, but im sure its somehow relevant. do the animals that we eat, such as pigs, cows, deer, buffalo, squirrel, and birds carry more gross little parasites and diseases that are likely to transfer to humans? or what? i was just curious, i dont appreciate being insulted for asking a question.
Your dad was close, but a little off. Almost everything you eat breaks down in the same amount of time because it only has the "biologically preset" amount of time in your tummy before it comes out as solid waste whether or not it was processed, i.e. Corn (sorry for the visual)
The part that lingers in your body is the various chemicals, bacteria, blah blah that the animal you're going to eat was exposed to or ate itself. Our bodies don't process all those chemicals out of our bloodstream very quickly if at all, so a cow thats been grazing for its 3 yr life span on a field that has been treated with pesticides or on sileage that was treated for mold is going to leave a hefty dose of those chemicals in your blood after you consume it. Whereas little fishy gets exposed to same chemical (theoretically) for its 6 month life span before being caught an packed has a smaller chemical load and therefore passes less on to you. SO.....the bigger dose of crap you don't want takes longer to dissolve/dissapear from your body. In summation... all animals handled by humans or growing up in envirnoments we affect have nasty little things in their bodies that find there way into us...and most "red Meat" animals have longer lives prior to slaughter so they stockpile more in their muscles...
PS I liked biology too
 

mimzy

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Originally Posted by Try2wryte
http:///forum/post/2899208
Your dad was close, but a little off. Almost everything you eat breaks down in the same amount of time because it only has the "biologically preset" amount of time in your tummy before it comes out as solid waste whether or not it was processed, i.e. Corn (sorry for the visual)
The part that lingers in your body is the various chemicals, bacteria, blah blah that the animal you're going to eat was exposed to or ate itself. Our bodies don't process all those chemicals out of our bloodstream very quickly if at all, so a cow thats been grazing for its 3 yr life span on a field that has been treated with pesticides or on sileage that was treated for mold is going to leave a hefty dose of those chemicals in your blood after you consume it. Whereas little fishy gets exposed to same chemical (theoretically) for its 6 month life span before being caught an packed has a smaller chemical load and therefore passes less on to you. SO.....the bigger dose of crap you don't want takes longer to dissolve/dissapear from your body. In summation... all animals handled by humans or growing up in envirnoments we affect have nasty little things in their bodies that find there way into us...and most "red Meat" animals have longer lives prior to slaughter so they stockpile more in their muscles...
PS I liked biology too

kyah, did u know that as a result of all this we ingest nearly a GALLON of pesticides a YEAR?????? AUGH!!!!
 

try2wryte

Member
Originally Posted by Mimzy
http:///forum/post/2899213
kyah, did u know that as a result of all this we ingest nearly a GALLON of pesticides a YEAR?????? AUGH!!!!


sick isn't it. You don't think that was too winded of an answer is see. My sig. other was just sitting over my shoulder sugggesting it was a bit much lol
 

mimzy

Active Member
Originally Posted by alix2.0
http:///forum/post/2899206
wow, thanks for taking the time to type that out mimz! that was totally the kind of answer i was looking for. i totally understand. and yeah, raw ground beef sounds pretty much terrifying.
LoL, u know how some pple r afraid of spiders, and some pple r afraid of the heights? well, i'm afraid of food poisoning. LoL. it's a little OCD. ok... well... a lot OCD. but anyhow, I also had to take a few food safety courses before I could start my cake design firm, and every minute of those classes was well worth it. I would encourage anyone to take them, especially if you're living in a dorm situation. They're 30bux at your local town hall and they're SO informative... nothing like a little food safety 2help u sleep at night
 

mimzy

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Originally Posted by Try2wryte
http:///forum/post/2899216
sick isn't it. You don't think that was too winded of an answer is see. My sig. other was just sitting over my shoulder sugggesting it was a bit much lol
huh? bit much? ur s/o hasn't done much reading around here then, have they? LoL.
 

mimzy

Active Member
Originally Posted by Try2wryte
http:///forum/post/2899224
<--- ServSafe certified here...lol
oooooooh the super expensive course. whyyyyyyyyyyy do they get away w/charging sooooooooo much money 4 that stupid course?????
 

try2wryte

Member
nope whereas as i can't get enough of it, it has become my new addiction lol but honestly i was reading these posts forever as a guest before signing up and talking.
 

try2wryte

Member
Originally Posted by Mimzy
http:///forum/post/2899225
oooooooh the super expensive course. whyyyyyyyyyyy do they get away w/charging sooooooooo much money 4 that stupid course?????

I dunno but my boss paid for it when i was G/M at MCD's so it runs out soon technically
 

yearofthenick

Active Member
JTT used to work at a meat market, and when the meat cutter would come, he'd leave the fat and they would grind it in with the ground round. The truth is that very little of the ground round is actually meat. Kind of disgusting how much of it is cooked fat, like the fat in bacon.
 

try2wryte

Member
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/2899230
JTT used to work at a meat market, and when the meat cutter would come, he'd leave the fat and they would grind it in with the ground round. The truth is that very little of the ground round is actually meat. Kind of disgusting how much of it is cooked fat, like the fat in bacon.
I just threw up a little in the back of my mouth
 
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