Is my new Crocea gaping???

ser-specv

Member
So I got this clam yesterday and today I decided to move some rocks and get it to higher ground since they need more light. After the move, it probably got pretty stressed. It looks like it's gaping... the intake is open pretty big and you can see a small opening on the bottom looking through the intake.
Could it just be stressed from both being new and the move? should I be worried or does it just need some time?
EDIT: Better Pic:
 

kraylen

Member
They prefer to be on the sandbed. If you decide to place higher you need to secure it with rocks or it may rip its foot off.
 

bcollett

Member
Does the clam react to you casting a shadow over it with your hands. I would say as long as its still responsive. Just give it time. It doesn't look like its open very much but its probably going to take some time to acclimate. I have 2 Crocea Clams and one Derasa in my tank, the Crocea's usually took to their new homes pretty quickly where the Derasa wasn't so quick to acclimate. Can you tell if the clam has secured it foot on to the rock at all yet?


 

meowzer

Moderator
I just got a derasa, and it has opened really quick....never had a crocea, BUT...I don;t see anything wrong in that pic
 

ser-specv

Member
Originally Posted by Kraylen
http:///forum/post/3190466
They prefer to be on the sandbed. If you decide to place higher you need to secure it with rocks or it may rip its foot off.
r u sure? I read they like rocky surface and that they are boring clams. I edited with a better pic. Does it look normal?
I just did some more reading and they say croceas are supposed to have larger intake than other clams and small opening on the bottom (looking through the intake) is normal? Can anyone confirm this? It's my first clam if you can't tell... I'm just a bit paranoid after reading about gaping on this forum.
 

meowzer

Moderator
The mantle of the Crocea Clam, also called the Boring Clam, or Crocus Clam, is a mixture of colors including blue, purple, and shades of browns and yellows. It may have iridescent patterns of blues, yellows, and greens. The Crocea Clam has a thick shell with fine file-like ridges on the lower portion and rows of thin scales near the upper rim. It penetrates through limestone substrates by releasing an acid to break down the carbonate in the stone. It uses the ridges of its thick shell to dig into the rock by opening and closing quickly through the use of its byssal muscles. It is the smallest of the "giant" clams (maximum 6 inches), so this burrowing behavior helps to protect it from predators such as starfish and butterflyfish. It has small tentacles on its incurrent siphon and a wide byssal opening. In the wild, the Crocea Clams often live together in great congregations. Both wild and cultured Crocea Clams are found in the aquarium industry.
In the home aquarium, the Crocea Clam is delicate compared to other Tridacna clams and is highly dependent on light. It requires bright lighting supplied by metal halide lamps to live, grow, and keep its intense colors. The type of lamp will depend on the depth of the tank and the position of the clam. A daylight fluorescent tube is also recommended. The Crocea Clam requires calcium levels of 400-480 mg/L, and a carbon hardness of 7 to 12 degrees. Proper levels of strontium and iodine are also needed. The subtrate should provide multiple areas into which the clam can burrow.
The Crocea Clam relies heavily on the photosynthesis of the algae growing in its mantle. However, it should be fed daily with a yeast-based suspension unless the tank is populated with fish and corals which are fed regularly. It also requires nitrogen for proper growth, and if the nitrate level is too low, additional nitrate should be added, but the level should not be higher than 2 mg/L.

I still think it looks ok....LOL
 

nycbob

Active Member
just monitor it. crocea clams do like rockwork, not sandbed. if u do put it on the sandbed, its recommended to place a flat rock underneath the clam. it does look like its gaping a bit. make sure its not getting direct flow. clams like very slow flow, but can tolerate medium flow once comfortable. isnt kraylen the same person that swears dwarf angels r 100% not reef safe.
 

ser-specv

Member
Originally Posted by BCollett
http:///forum/post/3190472
Does the clam react to you casting a shadow over it with your hands. I would say as long as its still responsive. Just give it time. It doesn't look like its open very much but its probably going to take some time to acclimate. I have 2 Crocea Clams and one Derasa in my tank, the Crocea's usually took to their new homes pretty quickly where the Derasa wasn't so quick to acclimate. Can you tell if the clam has secured it foot on to the rock at all yet?
Yes, the clam react to shadow and other stimuli very quickly. It's foot has not attached yet cause when I moved it today it was still loose. Your clam mantle looks much more extended than mine! Mine probably just needs more time I guess.
nycbob just monitor it. crocea clams do like rockwork, not sandbed. if u do put it on the sandbed, its recommended to place a flat rock underneath the clam. it does look like its gaping a bit. make sure its not getting direct flow. clams like very slow flow, but can tolerate medium flow once comfortable. isnt kraylen the same person that swears dwarf angels r 100% not reef safe.
Yeah, I'll keep an eye on it. I'd say it's under med flow right now. Here is a pic of it's new arrangement. It's about 1/3 way up in the tank with its mantle ~10-12" from water surface.
 

ser-specv

Member
Also, I noticed that my Midas Blenny picks on the clam's mantle once in a while... I hope he's just curious and will leave it alone soon.
 

ser-specv

Member
bad news... my blenny is pretty much killing my clam!
It's picking on it constantly and the clam does not look like it's gonna make it!
I also last my fire fish the other day... I think from me creating a sand storm making a new home for the clam!
I think I give up on clams...
 

nycbob

Active Member
sorry to hear. crocea isnt the easiest clam to start with. maybe u can try a derasa on the sandbed. and from the pic, the crocea wasnt placed in a very stable place. also, the powerhead seems to be pointing right at it which can cause gaping. between rockwork is the best place for crocea and maxima.
 

ser-specv

Member
Originally Posted by nycbob
http:///forum/post/3191580
sorry to hear. crocea isnt the easiest clam to start with. maybe u can try a derasa on the sandbed. and from the pic, the crocea wasnt placed in a very stable place. also, the powerhead seems to be pointing right at it which can cause gaping. between rockwork is the best place for crocea and maxima.

meowzer Yeah...I'm also very sorry to hear this :(

Thanks for the support nycbob and meowzer! I decided to move the clam down from the rock and place it in the corner on the sand to "hide" it and see if the blenny will leave it alone. Even then it might not make it. The mantle is tucked way in. I put a maze brain coral in the place where the clam was. I picked up the brain from a local reefer yesterday. It was sitting on the sand where the clam now sits.
 

ser-specv

Member
Update: Nope, the "hiding" didn't work. The blenny is trying to "host" the clam!
It goes completely in! The clam is doomed!
 

nycbob

Active Member
doesnt look good from the pic. i hv never seen a clam recovered once it shows deteriorating condition. personally, i think more rocks in ur display would look better, and with more rocks, u will get better water quality.
 

ser-specv

Member
Originally Posted by nycbob
http:///forum/post/3191640
doesnt look good from the pic. i hv never seen a clam recovered once it shows deteriorating condition. personally, i think more rocks in ur display would look better, and with more rocks, u will get better water quality.
Here is a pic of it! It's a goner! I'll look into getting more rocks. It's just that rocks are so EXPENSIVE! LoL!
 

nycbob

Active Member
the clam could hv been dying to begin with. sometime when a clam is dying, fish would somehow sense it, and go after it.
 

ser-specv

Member
Originally Posted by nycbob
http:///forum/post/3191648
the clam could hv been dying to begin with. sometime when a clam is dying, fish would somehow sense it, and go after it.
Should I take it out at this point or should I just leave it for the fish to finish it and maybe just let it have it as a home?
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by ser-specv
http:///forum/post/3191653
Should I take it out at this point or should I just leave it for the fish to finish it and maybe just let it have it as a home?
I'd leave it....I did when my Derasa died last week....the snails, crabs and shrimp had a clam bake...LOL
 
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