Is this a Stomatella snail

[oregonbud]

Hey all,
I believe this is one of the many varieties of stomatella snail, I have several others that all look similar but have different coloration (the most common look like this one, but I do have a couple that have blue spots instead of tan)
I also have LOTS of small conical shaped ones that are tan(unfortunately they only come out at night so getting a pic is difficult)
A confirmation on this guy would be great, and any ideas on possible IDs for the conical shaped ones is appreciated.
Thanks,
OB

 

[oregonbud]

Same snail, different pic, little better clarity

 

[bang guy]

I don't think so but it's hard to tell. Can you send me the original unscales picture so I can enhance it. I have seen that pattern on Stomatella but I think I see the spiral of a larger shell.

 

[oregonbud]

Yep I can send it to you (had to make sure I didn't delete the original - I assume the email addy you have listed in your profile is the correct one?

 

[oregonbud]

Thanks Kip - I had seen some species reports on the one you are referencing, but all the material I could find didn't have any decent pics to help me id it. Man I really hope it's not that type - there are literally between 50 and 100 of these snails in my tank right now (actually its funny - one of the larger ones had a feather duster attach to its shell when they were both small, now the feather duster is quite big, and you can hardly see the snail, but at night I see the snail and feather duster cruising along the rocks - someday I will get a pic just because it is something not seen all the time)

 

[marvida]

The snail in the photo looks like the same ones I've had for years. They are harmless and related to Stomatella according to Sprung's book Invertabrates. There's a good photo in that book. The nocturnal, conical ones are probably one of the parasitic pyramids. Here's a photo of them.

 

[marvida]

By the way if they're Pyramids they will attach to snails and clams and will need to be removed manually.
Ken

 

[oregonbud]

Thanks Ken
The conical ones are identical to the pic you posted - thanks for the info.
So far I haven't seen any attached to anything in the tank tho, they seem to just come up out of the sand at night and hang out on the glass - would it be a pretty good idea to try to take them out when I see them hanging around?

 

[oregonbud]

Anybody have a genus name on the pyramid snails - googling "pyramid snails" isn't giving me too much info.
Thanks.
OB
*edit
Nevermind - I found it - anyone curious its Pyrgiscus sp.

 

[marvida]

A large clam can handle some but juveniles, small clams & snails can be killed if there are too many. Some are species specific. They like to lay eggs in empty shells. They're also almost impossible to get rid of unless you remove their food supply (snail blood). They are however fairly short lived & it is possible to starve them out. They will attack the clam's mantle & bysisus (sp) gland area.
Also in the way of photo credits I stole the photo I posted off of another BB.

 

[reefer44]

6-line wrasse eat these (not positive but pretty sure)

 

[saltyj]

ok I have some of the snails in the first few pics if anyone figures out what they are let me know. They don't look the cone shaped ones though.

 

[timo]

I've got scores of the snails in the initial post. They reproduce quickly and stay small so far. Interestingly, they usually travel in a row of three. For the 6 months that I've seen them in the tank, absolutely no damage to corals whatsoever.
I don't know the name of them but have been interested.
They are not the "pyramid" snails referenced above.
HTH