Is this snail reef safe??

groupergenius

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Had to tear down my 90 today which is OK because I want to go reef with it anyway. Gave away all my livestock to a LFS then found this guy. I have not seen this snail in 2 years. He is still very much alive and I hate to let him die. I think it's called an Olive Snail. Stays under the sand all the time and never see him. Maybe another name is Sand Sifting Snail??
Unless I can trust him to be a good boy in my 15 gallon reef, this guy is ant food.
Any ideas???

 

groupergenius

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He stays under the sand all the time unless you overfeed or something dies. Then he comes out like a meat munching Zombie.
 

ghola5

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I would put him in ur 15 gallon or take him to the lfs dont let him just die for no good reason :)
 

reefkprz

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olive snails just plow around in the sand looking for tibits of dead plant and animal. good sand shifter, I would consider it generally reef safe. think of it as an oversized nassarius.
 

reefreak29

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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
olive snails just plow around in the sand looking for tibits of dead plant and animal. good sand shifter, I would consider it generally reef safe. think of it as an oversized nassarius.
there not good for a reef tank because there a cold water species
 

reefkprz

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ugh, I didnt even check its temp requirements I just looked into its dietary needs and habits. sloppy me. sorry.
 

donald

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He is not cold water, I have one that I live caught at the beach in the gulf of mexico(Tx). They don't hurt anything, and if something dies poof he apears and drags it down to meet ol' hob. They don't have enough mass to knock over live rock. I never see mine unless I put a piece of dead shrimp in the tank. Don't kill him he won't hurt any thing.
 

reefreak29

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Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
Well he's in there now.
My temps at night are 78-79 and during light cycle it's 77-78. Hopefully cool enough.

he will be fine in that temp, just might not live out its full life , oh and some species eat bivalves and crabs
 

morayeels

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That is a bad snail Can do some harm to you. I cant belive you are holding it in your hand.
There are over 500 species of cone snails, marine animals found in coastal areas. Each species produces many different venoms 30. Venom produced by the snails is injected into victims by means of their proboscis. In most cases this venom is not harmful to humans, although there have been a few reported cases of fatality following evenomation 31. The most scientifically interesting venoms are those produced by conus geographus and conus magus.
The venoms contain substances called conotoxins 32. These are small peptides, normally only 20-30 amino acid's in length. This short length has meant that synthetic derivatives are fairly easy to manufacture. There are a number of different types of conotoxin, each acting on different level.
 

morayeels

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Geographic Cone Snail Profile
The incredibly toxic venom of the geographic cone snail has to be strong enough to paralyze instantly. Otherwise, the fish it preys on would swim away to die, and the slow-moving gastropod would have nothing for its efforts.
Indigenous to the reefs of the Indo-Pacific, geographic cones grow to about 6 inches (15 centimeters) in length and have intricately patterned brown-and-white shells highly prized by shell collectors.
The geographic cone is the most venomous of the 500 known cone snail species, and several human deaths have been attributed to them. Their venom, a complex concoction of hundreds of different toxins, is delivered via a harpoonlike tooth propelled from an extendable proboscis. There is no antivenin for a cone snail sting, and treatment is limited to merely keeping victims alive until the toxins wear off.
Ironically, among the compounds found in cone snail venom are proteins which, when isolated, have enormous potential as pain-killing drugs. Research shows that certain of these proteins target specific human pain receptors and can be up to 10,000 times more potent than morphine without morphine's addictive properties and other side effects.
Fast Facts
Type: Invertebrate
Diet: Carnivore
Size: 4 to 6 in (10 to 15 cm)
Did you know? The geographic cone is nicknamed the "cigarette snail," a humorous exaggeration meaning a person stung by one would have enough time to smoke a cigarette before dying.
 

morayeels

Member
I seen one of these snails that is in the persons hand at a LFS and we did a little playing with it and it did try to sting a plastic spoon.
 

groupergenius

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Originally Posted by morayeels
I seen one of these snails that is in the persons hand at a LFS and we did a little playing with it and it did try to sting a plastic spoon.
Not to burst your bubble morayeels....I caught this snail here in Florida. This is out of my "local" tank where everything I had in it was caught by me locally. The cone snail is more shaped like a cowrie, this guy is not as fat in diameter as cowries or cones.
Some of our local conchs also try to sting as you say. Not quite as lethal as the cones though.
 

reefkprz

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Check this out I was googling around and found a cone shell thats very similar to your snail BUT the spire is shorter than on your specimin, the pattening is almost identicle though, google images "Conus geographus " thought youmight get a kick out of that. its amazing how close two different species from different oceans can look.
what moray is showing is "Conus textile" definatly not the same as your snail tyhe patterning isnt even close. sorry moray.
 
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