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puffer97
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my limit in tank size is a 20g the only fish i want is a porc of corse i will get a bigger tank as he grows but for right now will a 20g work??????
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usirchchris
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Originally Posted by puffer97
http:///forum/post/2697063
my limit in tank size is a 20g the only fish i want is a porc of corse i will get a bigger tank as he grows but for right now will a 20g work??????
They grow very fast I would not try this. You will spend too much money setting up a 20 gallon. I would not start (a porc) in a tank less than 75 gallons, too much money in fast upgrades. Patience until you can get the right equipment IMO.
http:///forum/post/2697063
my limit in tank size is a 20g the only fish i want is a porc of corse i will get a bigger tank as he grows but for right now will a 20g work??????
They grow very fast I would not try this. You will spend too much money setting up a 20 gallon. I would not start (a porc) in a tank less than 75 gallons, too much money in fast upgrades. Patience until you can get the right equipment IMO.
lion_crazz
Active Member
Agreed. Porcupine puffers grow way too fast to be kept in a 20 for any period of time. Even in three-six months, the fish probably will double in size.
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puffer97
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would a 40g be any better
slackjawed
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Originally Posted by puffer97
http:///forum/post/2697111
would a 40g be any better
sure !! no matter what everone has the same anwser.it would be ok for atleast 6 monts (depends how small he was to start).the 99% would tell you always your tank would be two small
and over loaded .you could put any small fish in a small tank for a little while (what about the people who have a QT) ??? is the QT 150 gallons? but you always want bigger . my 180 small and my 75 is tiny! 500 gal soooooooooooooooon!
http:///forum/post/2697111
would a 40g be any better
sure !! no matter what everone has the same anwser.it would be ok for atleast 6 monts (depends how small he was to start).the 99% would tell you always your tank would be two small
aquaknight
Active Member
Good luck finding a small Porcupine at the LFS's or online. They just don't 'come in small.' Smallest I've seen is a 4"er which I would say required at least a 75 gal. There is no point chasing tank upgrade after upgrade. Patience is a virtue in this hobby, give it some time and you'll see too.
slackjawed
Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2697695
Good luck finding a small Porcupine at the LFS's or online. They just don't 'come in small.' Smallest I've seen is a 4"er which I would say required at least a 75 gal. There is no point chasing tank upgrade after upgrade. Patience is a virtue in this hobby, give it some time and you'll see too.
wow you live in fla and cant get small fish?
http:///forum/post/2697695
Good luck finding a small Porcupine at the LFS's or online. They just don't 'come in small.' Smallest I've seen is a 4"er which I would say required at least a 75 gal. There is no point chasing tank upgrade after upgrade. Patience is a virtue in this hobby, give it some time and you'll see too.
wow you live in fla and cant get small fish?
aquaknight
Active Member
Originally Posted by slackjawed
http:///forum/post/2697784
wow you live in fla and cant get small fish?
Well, I could always go collect them myself
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But maybe I don't under the question? Small fish? Sure, check out the attached pic of a Mappa Puffer no bigger then a berry (not for sale BTW). But, no, I have not seen a healthy looking Porcupine Puffer under about 4" (tail included). Nor would I recommend them, extremely small fish, (and large as well), should be avoided. No fish adapts better to captivity better then adolescent adults.
http:///forum/post/2697784
wow you live in fla and cant get small fish?
Well, I could always go collect them myself
But maybe I don't under the question? Small fish? Sure, check out the attached pic of a Mappa Puffer no bigger then a berry (not for sale BTW). But, no, I have not seen a healthy looking Porcupine Puffer under about 4" (tail included). Nor would I recommend them, extremely small fish, (and large as well), should be avoided. No fish adapts better to captivity better then adolescent adults.
slackjawed
Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2697790
Well, I could always go collect them myself
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But maybe I don't under the question? Small fish? Sure, check out the attached pic of a Mappa Puffer no bigger then a berry (not for sale BTW). But, no, I have not seen a healthy looking Porcupine Puffer under about 4" (tail included). Nor would I recommend them, extremely small fish, (and large as well), should be avoided. No fish adapts better to captivity better then adolescent adults.
nice i buy him in a heart beat!!!my little dog faced is2" (of body) cool as hell
http:///forum/post/2697790
Well, I could always go collect them myself
But maybe I don't under the question? Small fish? Sure, check out the attached pic of a Mappa Puffer no bigger then a berry (not for sale BTW). But, no, I have not seen a healthy looking Porcupine Puffer under about 4" (tail included). Nor would I recommend them, extremely small fish, (and large as well), should be avoided. No fish adapts better to captivity better then adolescent adults.
nice i buy him in a heart beat!!!my little dog faced is2" (of body) cool as hell
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puffer97
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all rite i have a 55 gallon tank on hold the measurments are 48Lx13Hx20W from what i have read porcs. only get to be 14" i am sure it will fit what is your opion ????
redman1221
Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2697790
Well, I could always go collect them myself
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But maybe I don't under the question? Small fish? Sure, check out the attached pic of a Mappa Puffer no bigger then a berry (not for sale BTW). But, no, I have not seen a healthy looking Porcupine Puffer under about 4" (tail included). Nor would I recommend them, extremely small fish, (and large as well), should be avoided. No fish adapts better to captivity better then adolescent adults.
My LFS has the mappa puffer every now and then that size, but they are expensive.
Originally Posted by puffer97
http:///forum/post/2698762
all rite i have a 55 gallon tank on hold the measurments are 48Lx13Hx20W from what i have read porcs. only get to be 14" i am sure it will fit what is your opion ????
If you want one go get one jm2cents.
http:///forum/post/2697790
Well, I could always go collect them myself
But maybe I don't under the question? Small fish? Sure, check out the attached pic of a Mappa Puffer no bigger then a berry (not for sale BTW). But, no, I have not seen a healthy looking Porcupine Puffer under about 4" (tail included). Nor would I recommend them, extremely small fish, (and large as well), should be avoided. No fish adapts better to captivity better then adolescent adults.
My LFS has the mappa puffer every now and then that size, but they are expensive.
Originally Posted by puffer97
http:///forum/post/2698762
all rite i have a 55 gallon tank on hold the measurments are 48Lx13Hx20W from what i have read porcs. only get to be 14" i am sure it will fit what is your opion ????
If you want one go get one jm2cents.
jaymz
Member
Originally Posted by puffer97
http:///forum/post/2698762
all rite i have a 55 gallon tank on hold the measurments are 48Lx13Hx20W from what i have read porcs. only get to be 14" i am sure it will fit what is your opion ????
14" long and 10" wide
http:///forum/post/2698762
all rite i have a 55 gallon tank on hold the measurments are 48Lx13Hx20W from what i have read porcs. only get to be 14" i am sure it will fit what is your opion ????
14" long and 10" wide
hammerhed7
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the bioload a 10" porky would bring would nuke a 55 in no time
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puffer97
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what puffer is smaller a dog face or a porc.
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surfinusa
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Originally Posted by puffer97
http:///forum/post/2699889
what puffer is smaller a dog face or a porc.
Neither will be able to live very long in a 55 gallon.
http:///forum/post/2699889
what puffer is smaller a dog face or a porc.
Neither will be able to live very long in a 55 gallon.
texasmetal
Active Member
If you want one of those puffers that bad go buy a 120 gallon tank. That's that. No if's, and's, or but's about it. Do it right. Ya know?
Otherwise think about it like this. Do you want to live in your closet? You'll fit in there right? Keep your food in there. Use the bathroom in there. Never leave. See how long it is before you get bored out of your mind, restless, and very sick. Very similar scenario as putting a fish in a tank too small for it.
Just think about it.
Valentini, Hawaiian Blue-Spotted, and Saddle-back puffers will all do fine in a smaller tank, but I understand. They just don't look the same... they don't really act the same either. If you like the look of the Dogface, maybe you can get lucky and find a Green Spotted Puffer. They are usually sold in freshwater but they do actually live most of their life in saltwater. You may need to start the fish in freshwater and gradually increase the salinity of the water over a few weeks. They are fun, similar physical appearance of a dogface, just neon green with black polka dots, and have a ton of personality. Best of all, they stay pretty small. 5 inches at most. A 30 gallon would be fine, a 55 gallon would be fantastic. Best of all you won't have to get rid of the animal after you've gotten attached to it because, TA-DAH! It won't outgrow the tank.
Hope that makes sense to you.
Otherwise think about it like this. Do you want to live in your closet? You'll fit in there right? Keep your food in there. Use the bathroom in there. Never leave. See how long it is before you get bored out of your mind, restless, and very sick. Very similar scenario as putting a fish in a tank too small for it.
Just think about it.
Valentini, Hawaiian Blue-Spotted, and Saddle-back puffers will all do fine in a smaller tank, but I understand. They just don't look the same... they don't really act the same either. If you like the look of the Dogface, maybe you can get lucky and find a Green Spotted Puffer. They are usually sold in freshwater but they do actually live most of their life in saltwater. You may need to start the fish in freshwater and gradually increase the salinity of the water over a few weeks. They are fun, similar physical appearance of a dogface, just neon green with black polka dots, and have a ton of personality. Best of all, they stay pretty small. 5 inches at most. A 30 gallon would be fine, a 55 gallon would be fantastic. Best of all you won't have to get rid of the animal after you've gotten attached to it because, TA-DAH! It won't outgrow the tank.
Hope that makes sense to you.