Its dead, its all dead.... (by the way this is long)

maxx

Member
*sigh* ok well let me first explain what Ive done to my tank just to see if it was me. I started off w/ 60 gallons of saltwater, w/ a reading of 1.023. The next day I added two black molleys. Two days later I took the molleys out and gave them to my mom who has a freshwater tank. That day I added two yellow tailed damsels. 4 days later I added about 5 pounds of LR (Note: Now you guys say put in as much as possible because of multiple cycles, but I had a few bucks and said what the heck, theres nothing in my tank). So a few days went buy nothing to big happened, but then the molleys I gave to my Mom came down with the lovely Ick. Most of her fish dies (just a few goldfish). But my tank was doing great(in my eyes, again Im new at this). So a couple days went buy my tank was doing great, algae all over the place (green, red hair, some brown.) (Now I know that red hair is bad,but was pretty pumped to see life forming in my tank) I had a few snails cruising around, some little bug things small as a pinpoint, little feather dusters, my one polyp, a few mushrooms. SO feeling good last night I left my house to go to a friends, and my mom called me to ask if she would like me to put in a ick "preventative" First I said NO since Im the only one I know for a 20 mile radious that has the slightest idea on how to run a reef tank, (I couldnt call my LFS it was after 7).She had read me the bottle saying that it works for fresh AND saltwater, 2 drops per gallon blah blah blah. The chemical is NOX-ICH (thick blue colored liquid). Just to throw in quickly I have a Wet/Dry built in filter. So it sounded legit so I gave my Mom the go-ahead.
Here we go: I come home this morning, water tinted blue, fish... all dead, mushrooms dont want to open, polyp is just little bud (usually open all the time) the little duster worms are tinted blue at the head, all my snails dead those little pinpoint critters gone, everything is dead or dying. AAGGGHHHH!!! What hapened and What do I do?? I have a shipment of 44 pounds of LR coming Tuesday to offically start my tank. I was thinking of getting some carbon in there to clean the water. NOw this is the crappy part. Im broke. cant do more than a 15 gallon water change, I gotta scrap through the couches and washermachine to get money for a carbon filter. UUGGHH. what a morning. Can you guys PLEASE help??
Maxx
 

@knight

Member
Sounds like your tank was poisoned with malachite green, wich is the main ingredient in NOX-ICH. I have heard bad stuff about it.
this came off a webpage about it: "higher temps and lower pHs make it more toxic. It
persists in tissue for a long time so repeated treatments causes accumulation to toxic levels. "Toxicity in fish usually presents as respiratory distress, since it is a metabolic respiratory poison. Treated fish may become anorexic."
I am not going to attempt to give you advice for this other than posting in the disease forum would be your best bet. Beth and Terry B. will be the best to advise you on this. I dont think carbon will instantly remove this stuff.
when you make a post in the disease forium, be sure to give as mmany details as possible, because at this point time may be an issue.
Bummer man, I wish you luck.
 

maxx

Member
thank you for the help @knight, with the info you gave me I called my LFS and they told me exactly what to do. Thank you i'll keep you posted
Maxx
 

@knight

Member
i wish you luck, but one thing i have learned, whatever advice you get from a LFS, runit by your friends at SWF, because sometimes the LFS is WAY WRONG, or they tell you the most EXPENSIVE way of doing it.
 

maxx

Member
I agree w/ you 1000.5 percent. I called them for added advice. They told me to get a poly filter, and some carbon. they wanted 17.00 for a small bag of polyfiber (or fish floss) I called another place for prices...1.50 for the same thing. So yeah I added some fish floss, and some carbon. Hopefully everything will be cleared up by Tuesday (The day I get my lump amount of LR.) Thanks again @knight, and I totally agree w/ you I will ALWAYS come here first for my reef issues. I have much faith in you guys. Thanks again
Maxx
(p.s. everything is dead and or dying off, except a small ear of leather coral)
 

burnnspy

Active Member
You gave you mom premission to poison your tank.
There is a difference between salkwater tanks and reef tanks.
Without the carbon it is probably totally wiped.
Consider this a hard lesson on you and your livestock.
Never add medications to a reef tank.
BurnNSpy
BurnNSpy
 
I would suggest that you scrap the live rock that you baught previously since it is most likely dead. If you have tufa rock as base rock, scrap that two because I have heard it is like a sponge and soaks up everything.
Ask your parents for money and do a LARGE water change.
*******DO A LOT OF READING.
I only deal with the lfs to buy live stock. Do not take their advise because it is usually to buy something and to them that means BUSINESS cha ching and if they know that advise was wrong you will be back to buy more crap to fix their mistake.
Take out the substrate and clean it realy good.
And never medicate fish in the showtank.
*** What I do is I keep a air driven sponge filter in my sump and when a fish falls ill I I a hospital tank that I add 50% new water and 50% show tank water to and then put the filter in the hospital tank and THEN medicate the fish.
After I return the fish to the show tank, dump the water, trash the filter media, bleack the filter, rinse the filter, add new media, and put it back into the sump.
Sorry you had to learn the hard way.
Adam
 

maxx

Member
well no more blue tint to the water since Saturday night. My mushrooms are melting away, my leathers doing fine. I noticed today 2 snails cruising around two Ive never seen before, and two pinkish worms about 1/2 an inch long crawling around. My LFS says everything will be ok for tommorow (44 pounds of Vanisi LR). I've got alot of algae inside my tank all over actually. And thats it. SO yeah thanks for the consern @knight. See ya
Maxx
 
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