I've got a couple of questions please??

wonderland

Member
I just bought a well-established 150 gallon tank. I have had a 55 gallon FOWLR tank in the past, but hubby decided he wanted a reef tank this time and I figured we'd go bigger than before.......
The seller kept the rock and coral, but left everything else. I saved the water in the sump and refugium but chose to scrape and clean the tank itself and put down a new bed of aragonite sand. The previous owner had crushed coral in it, which I threw away because I am going to have several wrasses and they need sand to bed-down in.....
I did change around the system underneath the tank. The tank had a 10 gallon refugium draining into a 20 gallon sump with a trickle filter in it (2 drain pipes from tank, one went to refugium and the other to the sump)............ I moved the refugium into the 20 gallon tank (installed extra walls), and put the trickle filter in the 10 gallon (former refugium) and filled the 10 gallon tank with live rock. So now both drain lines go to the 10 gallon tank with the rock ( 1 line feeds through the trickle filter ) and the water goes through the live rock and then drains into the refugium, and then gets pumped back up..........
My first question is this: Even though I put new sand in the tank itself, I kept the substrate and plants in the refugium (just moved them to the 20 gallon) and did not scrub out the the refugium, sump, or trickle filter....... Am I still looking at a 6 week cycling process before adding fish?? Or are the biologicals from the sump and refugium going to speed things along??
Second question: I have a Phosban reactor with the bio-pellets that I will install when I start feeding fish in the tank. With that reactor, along with the planted refugium and rock in the sump, do I need to run the skimmer? A few articles I read said that the skimmer will remove food (and other stuff produced by the bio-pellets), in the water column that the corals would like to eat.....
 

jburgi

Member
I cannot answer your questions...but I am excited for pictures when you get it up and going!
 

xandrew245x

Member
Skimmers will always help, no hurt in running one, so yes run it! As for having to wait 6 weeks, I'm not 100% sure, but my guess is your still probably going to have to wait, it might be a little faster having everything established like that. I bought my tank off a guy and he gave me all the established live rock, I didn't take any of the water, and I added new live rock in with it, and its week 4 and i'm still waiting ;P
 

flower

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Originally Posted by Wonderland http:///t/390364/ive-got-a-couple-of-questions-please#post_3456310
I just bought a well-established 150 gallon tank. I have had a 55 gallon FOWLR tank in the past, but hubby decided he wanted a reef tank this time and I figured we'd go bigger than before.......
The seller kept the rock and coral, but left everything else. I saved the water in the sump and refugium but chose to scrape and clean the tank itself and put down a new bed of aragonite sand. The previous owner had crushed coral in it, which I threw away because I am going to have several wrasses and they need sand to bed-down in.....
I did change around the system underneath the tank. The tank had a 10 gallon refugium draining into a 20 gallon sump with a trickle filter in it (2 drain pipes from tank, one went to refugium and the other to the sump)............ I moved the refugium into the 20 gallon tank (installed extra walls), and put the trickle filter in the 10 gallon (former refugium) and filled the 10 gallon tank with live rock. So now both drain lines go to the 10 gallon tank with the rock ( 1 line feeds through the trickle filter ) and the water goes through the live rock and then drains into the refugium, and then gets pumped back up..........
My first question is this: Even though I put new sand in the tank itself, I kept the substrate and plants in the refugium (just moved them to the 20 gallon) and did not scrub out the the refugium, sump, or trickle filter....... Am I still looking at a 6 week cycling process before adding fish?? Or are the biologicals from the sump and refugium going to speed things along??
Second question: I have a Phosban reactor with the bio-pellets that I will install when I start feeding fish in the tank. With that reactor, along with the planted refugium and rock in the sump, do I need to run the skimmer? A few articles I read said that the skimmer will remove food (and other stuff produced by the bio-pellets), in the water column that the corals would like to eat.....
Most people over skim and do indeed feed the coral and have the skimmer absorb everything they just put in the tank.....turn off your skimmer for the day when you feed the coral. I feed mine twice a week. What feeds coral also feeds algae, so you want the plant organics to be removed by the skimmer and yet allow the corals to feed and grow, it's a delicate balance.
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
OK... hmmm
If you have an active, well established refugium that you can harvest macroalgae out of on a weekly or two week basis AND you maintain a low bioload, then no, there's no need for a skimmer with scheduled water changes and proper husbandry skills. I successfully kept a 90g soft and LPS coral tank with only a refugium and bi-yearly water changes. I know it can be done.
Skimmers do remove some coral foods - overskimming can cause less food to be in the water column for passive feeding. Most aquarists end up feeding their corals (especially if the corals in question are soft corals and Large Polyp Stony (LPS) corals. NPS corals require no sunlight but frequent meaty feedings. For SPS corals, most of what seems to be consumed is calcium, alkalinity and light. It just really depends on what corals you are trying to keep.
 

wonderland

Member
I really wanted to try and build a softie tank. They are so beautiful when done right and according to my research don't have such a demanding nature when it comes to light or calcium levels. Xenias and Mushrooms and such......
 
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