Jason Garret

[stdreb27]

Does anyone besides me think that the Cowboys offense is poorly coached, sloppy and can't execute a simple snap? Sure once a season I expect to see then poorly execute a snap. But then all hell should break loose and they should practice it for an entire day. Then live in fear that messing up that fundamental would result in serious duress. And never do it again.
Second, you have TO, you have Roy Williams, you have excellent 3rd and 4th receivers. You have Witten you have Choice, and Barber. Yet you can't get any of these receivers open? You aren't scoring 30+ points a game. Romo is regressing. You've gone 3 and out how many times this year. Enough times where the defense collapsed last night.
Where is this offensive genius? I'm still waiting for it to appear.

 

[jerryatrick]

You saw Ed Reed rolling over in support of coverage for Owens a lot last night. That means that Roy Williams was played man to man. They did not take advantage of that enough last night.
Romo played like trash last night up until late in the 4th quarter. The defense was expecting the run late in the game but each time a broken tackle sprung a long TD.

 

[subielover]

For someone that was being billed as the next great coach, he hasn't lived up to the hype this year. I would say that Williams needs to see the ball more, but he is probably still getting acclimated to the offense. As for Romo, he definitely is heading in the wrong direction. I know this has been talked about a lot, but ever since Jessica Simpson, he seems to have lost his mojo, just sayin.

 

[coraljunkie]

Romo can't win the big game. He is at his worst in a big game situation. Anyone remember Danny White. Romo is just like Danny White.

 

[gmann1139]

Cowboys have always been a sloppy team, they were heavily-penalized since the Parcells era, which is pretty much the definition of a sloppy team.
However, with all the drama and dysfunction from the owner on down, you can't really expect the team to be as straight-laced and organized as say.. the Steelers.

 

[ruaround]

i thought that game was poorly called last night... but i did enjoy it!!! i have no clue what J Jones was thinkin when he hired son of a bum and didnt let him pick his own Asst coach/ O coord...

 

[kjr_trig]

I would worry more about your defense after last night

....At least they look better than the playoff bound Cardinals

............T.O. has to go though, the guy is a horror show of a distraction, and he and Romo can't co-exist beyond this year.
But yes, Garret is overrated.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by JerryAtrick
http:///forum/post/2883708
You saw Ed Reed rolling over in support of coverage for Owens a lot last night. That means that Roy Williams was played man to man. They did not take advantage of that enough last night.
Romo played like trash last night up until late in the 4th quarter. The defense was expecting the run late in the game but each time a broken tackle sprung a long TD.
If TO is as good as his talk he'd be open.
Originally Posted by gmann1139
http:///forum/post/2883962
Cowboys have always been a sloppy team, they were heavily-penalized since the Parcells era, which is pretty much the definition of a sloppy team.
However, with all the drama and dysfunction from the owner on down, you can't really expect the team to be as straight-laced and organized as say.. the Steelers.
They've been sloppy since Jimmy left.
And do you really but this "dysfunction" hype. I think that is all it is hype.
Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/2884159
I would worry more about your defense after last night

....At least they look better than the playoff bound Cardinals

............T.O. has to go though, the guy is a horror show of a distraction, and he and Romo can't co-exist beyond this year.
But yes, Garret is overrated.
Defense is fine. The cowboys should have been up by 30 points at the end of the 3rd quarter. Then it wouldn't have mattered.

 

[pontius]

1. They have had a lot of injuries this season
2. both TO and Pacman Jones are team cancers.
Jerry Jones is the George Steinbrenner of the league. more interested in picking up free agents than building a team through the draft. they'd be much better off with Anquan Boldin or Andre Johnson than with TO. and they could've had either of them, but instead draft a center who as far as I know, is not on an NFL roster at this time. so when they need a playmaker WR, they go get the biggest name (and biggest team cancer) available.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2884467
1. They have had a lot of injuries this season
2. both TO and Pacman Jones are team cancers.
Jerry Jones is the George Steinbrenner of the league. more interested in picking up free agents than building a team through the draft. they'd be much better off with Anquan Boldin or Andre Johnson than with TO. and they could've had either of them, but instead draft a center who as far as I know, is not on an NFL roster at this time. so when they need a playmaker WR, they go get the biggest name (and biggest team cancer) available.
I dunno If I was wide open and the pass went to someone on his back I'd be ticked too.

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2884480
I dunno If I was wide open and the pass went to someone on his back I'd be ticked too.
True, but if the pass hit me in the hands I would catch it also. Coming from a fan I do not want to see these guys make the playoffs. They will lose in the first round anyway.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2884505
True, but if the pass hit me in the hands I would catch it also. Coming from a fan I do not want to see these guys make the playoffs. They will lose in the first round anyway.
See I don't buy the ESPN hype. Think about it. They are a North East channel that loves north east teams. They don't care about the rest of the world. And can now be complete because farve is in the north east now.
And where does the rest of the NFC east play washington NYC and Philly. They HATE the cowboys. (mainly because they were a made team before ESPN could make them) (see the bosox as proof) and because well they are in texas and they think we're a bunch of backwoods hayseed hicks.
I don't think TO is acting up too much this season. But I do agree his talk is bigger than his game has been this year.

 

[gmann1139]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2884319
They've been sloppy since Jimmy left.
And do you really buy this "dysfunction" hype. I think that is all it is hype.
They were since for the hair helmet too. I gotta think the Cowboys of the 90's rival the Jail Blazers and Ben-jails for most players arrested. Irvin, Nate Newton... its been a constant with the organization.
The only other constant? The owner.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by gmann1139
http:///forum/post/2885218
They were since for the hair helmet too. I gotta think the Cowboys of the 90's rival the Jail Blazers and Ben-jails for most players arrested. Irvin, Nate Newton... its been a constant with the organization.
The only other constant? The owner.
still waiting for a cowboy to get caught as the ring leader of a dogfighting group, or shoot himself in the leg with his own gun, then go to jail for 4 years...

 

[kjr_trig]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2884319
Defense is fine. The cowboys should have been up by 30 points at the end of the 3rd quarter. Then it wouldn't have mattered.

Didn't realize the Cowboys were just so good they could snap their fingers and score 30 points on Ray Lewis and the Ravens D in 3 quarters....I will try to remember that.

If you score 24 on the Ravens you should expect that to be enough....That is unless your Defense (which you say "is fine") gives up 250 yards on the ground, and over 400 total.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/2885771

Didn't realize the Cowboys were just so good they could snap their fingers and score 30 points on Ray Lewis and the Ravens D in 3 quarters....I will try to remember that.

If you score 24 on the Ravens you should expect that to be enough....That is unless your Defense (which you say "is fine") gives up 250 yards on the ground, and over 400 total.

horse crap. There isn't a defense in the league that should be able to stop them. 17 points isn't acceptable, (they scored 7 on a 5 yard drive remember). 14 of those in the last few minutes of the 4th quarter. After 3 quarters they as an offense had 150 yards. Which is my contention at this point. Garrett is a moron because his offense is SERIOUSLY underperforming.
You can't argue that the Ravens are that good at shutting down dallas's offense. Especially with the overthrown passes that they had. If you've been watching the cowboys, even some of their 35 point games, over the course of the day they were inconsistant, however, Romo hit TO vs throwing it 10 yards behind him or 3 feet past his hands. There were 2 times where romo missed his man TO and Austin where it would have been a touchdown or really close. That is 14 points right there. Where they didn't score anything. If he hits those two passes, it is an entirely different game. The 30 point game I'm talking about.
And I'm not even going to talk about the fumbles they had on special teams. Or the punting.
Quite frankly, as a coach I'd rather be in a position where my team failed on 2 plays. On a couple missed tackles at the end of the game. ( at least then you can tell them you sucked in the 4th quarter, that means you aren't in good enough shape lets go running...) VS have to coach a team with 3 quarters of complete ineptitude on offense.

 

[kjr_trig]

LOL, are all Cowboy fans delusional? Dallas has the 14th ranked offense in the NFL, the Ravens have the 3rd ranked defense in the NFL, and you are complaining that 24 points isn't enough because you guys are so great.
Summary of your offense.....
You have a decent run blocking line, that is terrible in pass protection. You have solid running backs, but they are soft. Terrel Owens and Roy Williams are below average as a combo in this league, if you wan't to see a top quality tandom, come to Phoenix or New England. You have one of the top 3 Tight Ends in the league, and your qb is middle of the pack.....That's why you are the 14th best offense in the league....And don't blame it on injuries, cause every team gets banged up, some a lot worse than the Cowboys (Seattle, Denver, and New England to name a few).

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/2885913
Summary of your offense.....
You have a decent run blocking line, that is terrible in pass protection. You have solid running backs, but they are soft. Terrel Owens and Roy Williams are below average as a combo in this league, if you wan't to see a top quality tandom, come to Phoenix or New England. You have one of the top 3 Tight Ends in the league, and your qb is middle of the pack.....That's why you are the 14th best offense in the league....And don't blame it on injuries, cause every team gets banged up, some a lot worse than the Cowboys (Seattle, Denver, and New England to name a few).

That is our point, most of these guys made the pro bowl last year. Had awesome stats. But this year none of them mentioned are going. That is our point. The offense should be doing a lot better.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/2885913
LOL, are all Cowboy fans delusional? Dallas has the 14th ranked offense in the NFL, the Ravens have the 3rd ranked defense in the NFL, and you are complaining that 24 points isn't enough because you guys are so great.
Summary of your offense.....
You have a decent run blocking line, that is terrible in pass protection. You have solid running backs, but they are soft. Terrel Owens and Roy Williams are below average as a combo in this league, if you wan't to see a top quality tandom, come to Phoenix or New England. You have one of the top 3 Tight Ends in the league, and your qb is middle of the pack.....That's why you are the 14th best offense in the league....And don't blame it on injuries, cause every team gets banged up, some a lot worse than the Cowboys (Seattle, Denver, and New England to name a few).
You think marion Barber is soft?

You are missing my point. I would say your summation is indicative of this years performance. Which I think it pretty accurate minus our running game. TO, Austin, and Crayton have are playing lower middle of the pack.
What I'm saying is that, they are underperforming to their talent level. Which I think is highly indicative of the coaching. And yes they should have scored more than 17 points against the ravens.

 

[kjr_trig]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2885949
You think marion Barber is soft?

I don't think Marion Barber is soft when he's running over a linebacker.
I question Marion Barbers ability to play 16 games as the feature back without having injury problems....Tough to speculate as to the severity of players injuries, but when the owner says something and then has to backtrack....I think it's legitimate to question his toughness....I would have to guess Emmitt Smith (for example) would have played with the same injury.
TO is good, but over the hill....Roy Williams (your other starter if you forgot) has been banged up all year and not good enough to be a factor when he is hurt.....I think it goes back to pass blocking, I haven't watched them as much as you have but games I have seen (Cardinals, Giant's, Ravens a few more) Romo is not protected very well, they are a big O-line built for run block but not able to handle a speed front line, that's why he throws to Whitten and Barber so much, not enough time for downfield routes to develop.