Just Bought a Flame Scalop! Quick Q

[nietzsche]

i dont understand why people on this board get so offended easily, its so weird.
i think people also need to read more about animals before purchasing. if you hear that an animal is hard to take care of and doesnt do well in captivity it's for a reason, but again, people get offended when someone gives advice as to not try it because youll kill the animal. i also see a lot of people wanting to give animals the minimum that they need to survive, which sucks. yeah it's your tank, you can do what you want but who's the one whos going to be hurt? youre playing around with animals lives, theyre not toys. and im guessing tangwhispr just feels that way about animals. a lot of people on this board also think "who cares, ill replace it. no big deal. its just a freakin fish" or the famous "so and so had it in his/her tank with so and so equipment, so i can do it, thanks anyways"
anyways, good luck with the flame scallop...

 

[srfisher17]

Originally Posted by nietzsche
i dont understand why people on this board get so offended easily, its so weird.
i think people also need to read more about animals before purchasing. if you hear that an animal is hard to take care of and doesnt do well in captivity it's for a reason, but again, people get offended when someone gives advice as to not try it because youll kill the animal. i also see a lot of people wanting to give animals the minimum that they need to survive, which sucks. yeah it's your tank, you can do what you want but who's the one whos going to be hurt? youre playing around with animals lives, theyre not toys. and im guessing tangwhispr just feels that way about animals. a lot of people on this board also think "who cares, ill replace it. no big deal. its just a freakin fish" or the famous "so and so had it in his/her tank with so and so equipment, so i can do it, thanks anyways"
anyways, good luck with the flame scallop...
Sure, everyone is entitled to their their own set fish-morals. But to viciously attack someone who doesn't share your values or experience (?) has no place in a forum like this. There is a long history here....

 

[srfisher17]

I deleted a couple of previous posts in this thread; a little to "aggressive" on my part. IMO; everyone is entitled to their own set of "fish-morals". But to attack, rather, than offer constructive criticism, someone who doesn't share your set is not appropriate on this forum. At one time, every animal we keep was considered "impossible" in our hobby. I think we can all share our experience and opinions without putting a fellow hobbiest on a guilt trip because they lose an animal. It would be easy for a non-hobbiest, who has extreme (at least extreme to most people) values regarding all life, to find fault with keeping ANY life in a glass cage. That's his right, but I hope he doesn't shower and kill all those little harmless bacteria that live on him!

 

[reefernana]

My apologies to Alex4826 for hijacking your thread. I've only been on this board since March (even though it says May I was under another name), but I have grown very tired of seeing some of the supposed 'experienced' members blatantly attacking newer people. I just don't understand the need to tell people how stupid they are when wanting answers. This can be done in civil ways instead of trying to be so superior. Maybe I'm just dreaming but if these supposed 'experts' don't agree with what someone is trying to do, I feel they can say it in ways that make sense while at the same time explaining why without making the questioner feel stupid for even asking. Pretty soon people won't even ask, they'll just do, which is definitely what this board is not supposed to be about. Sorry, again!

 

[nick76]

So ive read stories flame scalops do not live long, I know there is at least 1 person on this board who has sucessfully kept one and I believe it is still living years later. They need immaculate care however I believe it can be done. It is not a "mistake" to want to try to keep something alive that most cannot, that dosnt mean it cant be done because IMO it can with the right conditions. Its the same as keeping a Boxfish or a sea apple. Alot of people will discourage against it saying it cant be done but in some cases it can. Everyone makes an impulse buy at some point or another.
Alex my adivce to you would not be discouraged by anyone here. Spot feed him but dont go get another one. Do some reading on everything u can find about it.

 

[alex4286]

Originally Posted by nietzsche
i dont understand why people on this board get so offended easily, its so weird.
i think people also need to read more about animals before purchasing. if you hear that an animal is hard to take care of and doesnt do well in captivity it's for a reason, but again, people get offended when someone gives advice as to not try it because youll kill the animal. i also see a lot of people wanting to give animals the minimum that they need to survive, which sucks. yeah it's your tank, you can do what you want but who's the one whos going to be hurt? youre playing around with animals lives, theyre not toys. and im guessing tangwhispr just feels that way about animals. a lot of people on this board also think "who cares, ill replace it. no big deal. its just a freakin fish" or the famous "so and so had it in his/her tank with so and so equipment, so i can do it, thanks anyways"
anyways, good luck with the flame scallop...
You call what i got was Advice from him?.. What kind of advice "Be ashamed, very ashamed." ??
JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS LISTED AS DIFFICULT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T EVER HAVE OR BUY THEM... maybe you should argue with SWF.COM for carrying them if your that concerned.

 

[alex4286]

i bought it on the 20th.
It's been 1 week, yes i know its early but it seems to be doing just fine so far. It's moved a total of about 8 times, and seems to have found a good one because its been a few days since its last moved. It seems to take the food i put in front of it too, ill keep everything posted if things change!
But I still want to know, has anyone ever successfully bread scallops in a tank? I did a lot of research and most say they like to be in groups and if u add more they most likely will cluster together.

 

[michaeltx]

not breed but did have one in my FOWLR tank along with a condy anemone I didnt want in my reef tank for almost 2 years. I was told it wouldnt live and all that hype for a long time especially in a FOWLR tank. but i had already purchased it thats abou tthe time I found this site years ago. when I sold my setup they were still alive and well but havent heard anything sense then about them so I dont know if they made the move or not.
Let me say that if you are responding to a post if you cant say it nicely dont respond to it. enough of the non-sense post belittleing people for what they have. also if someone has been rude or arrogant in your eyes please report the post in the new hobby forum for a moderator to look at. .
Mike

 

[jpnewreefe]

i hear they do best in a small group so i might go back and buy 2 more or so
i wouldnt buy more .they are filter feeders its hard providing enough food in a closed system for one, i wouldnt have it compete with others.
i have had one for 7 months now.so far its ok but its in the back of my tank and doesnt move much. i use combo vital a very good food for filter feeders and corals and dts oyster eggs and plankton.

 

[srfisher17]

Originally Posted by MichaelTX
not breed but did have one in my FOWLR tank along with a condy anemone I didnt want in my reef tank for almost 2 years. I was told it wouldnt live and all that hype for a long time especially in a FOWLR tank. but i had already purchased it thats abou tthe time I found this site years ago. when I sold my setup they were still alive and well but havent heard anything sense then about them so I dont know if they made the move or not.
Let me say that if you are responding to a post if you cant say it nicely dont respond to it. enough of the non-sense post belittleing people for what they have. also if someone has been rude or arrogant in your eyes please report the post in the new hobby forum for a moderator to look at. .
Mike
Thanks!!!

 

[alex4286]

Originally Posted by reefernana
My apologies to Alex4826 for hijacking your thread. I've only been on this board since March (even though it says May I was under another name), but I have grown very tired of seeing some of the supposed 'experienced' members blatantly attacking newer people. I just don't understand the need to tell people how stupid they are when wanting answers. This can be done in civil ways instead of trying to be so superior. Maybe I'm just dreaming but if these supposed 'experts' don't agree with what someone is trying to do, I feel they can say it in ways that make sense while at the same time explaining why without making the questioner feel stupid for even asking. Pretty soon people won't even ask, they'll just do, which is definitely what this board is not supposed to be about. Sorry, again!
No worries. Very well said! thanks

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by sk8shorty01
Because in order to advance fish keeping in general someone somewhere has to attempt to keep something that has not yet been successful and figure out what will work. ...
There is a rather large difference between advancing the hobby and buying a species with the hope that it will survive in your tank. Reread the original post; it doesn't sound like a lot of research or preperation has gone into this purchase.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by BrandonSLC
They don't live too long in tanks. 6 months would be considered a long life. they are filter feeder and to meet their dietary requirements in a tank is very difficult unless you have a very large tank and are OCD about keeping it suplemented with small microorganisms for them to feed on. Enjoy him/her, their very cool, but not well suited for aquariums.
Well put.
Folks, this is the kind of response we need to see more of around here.

 

[nietzsche]

Originally Posted by Alex4286
You call what i got was Advice from him?.. What kind of advice "Be ashamed, very ashamed." ??
JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS LISTED AS DIFFICULT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T EVER HAVE OR BUY THEM... maybe you should argue with SWF.COM for carrying them if your that concerned.

grow up

no i dont, calm down.

 

[nietzsche]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
There is a rather large difference between advancing the hobby and buying a species with the hope that it will survive in your tank. Reread the original post; it doesn't sound like a lot of research or preperation has gone into this purchase.
yup

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by TangWhispr
But at whose expense, you're killing a living thing so that you can have it in your home. What makes you or any person that doesn't have extensive knowledge of, fish, coral, etc the person to do that. Professionals do the testing under perfect conditions, and controlled environments. Borneman, Calfo, Pro, Pubilc Aquariums, etc. are the ones that need to do it, not some noob or guy who has been keeping fish for a few years.
assuming that they kill them... but then again you have age as another significant factor.

 

[michaeltx]

I just found a pic of the 100 FOWLR with the scallop and condy in it.
here it is in the middle you can see the scallop under the rocks.
Mike