Kalkwasser Reactor vs Kalkwasser Doser

teen

Active Member
Originally Posted by jocoxVT
My calcium reactor has been set up since September. I realize that kalk is cheap but only so much kalk is going to dissolve in the water and when you only evaporate so much water a day you can only dose so much kalk a day, following me? None the less when I was running my SPS dominant system my demand was not met by kalk top off and bio calcium alone (it came to the point that I was having to feed my tank so much bio calcium that it wasnt economical anymore) hence I got a calcium reactor.
so youve had 3 problems/ encounters with it since september. to me, thats kind of problematic.
and i do a kalk slurry, i dont drip kalk in my make up water so im not really following you.
 

jocoxvt

Member
Originally Posted by teen
so youve had 3 problems/ encounters with it since september. to me, thats kind of problematic.
and i do a kalk slurry, i dont drip kalk in my make up water so im not really following you.
I dont think that 3 minor adjustments should be considered problematic at all. Tanks mature, calcium demand changes, with those changes you have to change your calcium reactor to maintain your needs.
As for the kalk slurry for me that isnt logical at all I have a high demand for calcium in my system and kalk was not maintaining it either via slurry or dripping. Also have you thought about the impurties in kalk that you are dosing straight into your system with kalk reactors you can see where they seperate inside the body. Randy Holmes Farley has done articles on kalk slurry you may want to read them. I am not saying you cant maintain YOUR needs with this method but I cannot with how much kalk slurry I would need to add it would spike my pH. Also a kalk slurry cannot be an automated feature while both my kalk reacotr and calcium reactor are automated in which I do not have to worry about them.
Originally Posted by Aztec Reef

did you read my first post? where i said 60g and less kalk-drip and calcium reactor for larger.. what i mean is, it would'nt be that fun to kalkdrip for a 125g tank daily, i would just go with calcium reactor. but for smaller tank you don't need it. imo kalk is the best way to keep alk,calcium &ph. stable.(in smaller tanks).
Yes I did read that and thats when I said you can maintain your calcium needs on tanks greater then 60 with just kalk depending on your calcium needs. I see what your saying though I just feel and have seen many successfull tanks that were run on kalk alone.
 

aztec reef

Active Member
Originally Posted by jocoxVT
Yes I did read that and thats when I said you can maintain your calcium needs on tanks greater then 60 with just kalk depending on your calcium needs. I see what your saying though I just feel and have seen many successfull tanks that were run on kalk alone.
i don't have any problem with kalk-drip on bigger tanks. it just takes a little more work. and there's nothing wrong with runnig just either one..regardless of tank size...
 

manderx

New Member
sure is alot of paranoia and mis-information in this thread.
calcium reactors are *not* hard to setup or tune. all you gotta do is set the pH inside the chamber with a pH controller and the solenoid on the regulator. then you just turn the effluent drip up and and down as needed to raise or lower your calcium/alk. so as you test over time, if you see calcium/alk raising or lowering, you simply reach down and turn a valve a smidge. no big deal. doing this 3 times in 6 months can hardly be called problematic. what do you do when your calcium or alk is low? reach for a bottle of supplement, do the math to know how much to dose, measure it out, mix it in DI water, then drip it. and how often, 2-3 times a week? seems a whole lot more problematic and more work than just turning a dial a hair. with all that said, i see my calcium reactor as supplementing what my kalk reactor doesn't provide. there is something magic about kalk, and even though i can maintain all the same numbers with just a calcium reactor, my tank does better with kalk. but since my tank is full of growing corals, i can't drip dose enough kalk to meet the demand.
kalk slurry is dumb. inconsistent, spikes the pH, and introduces impurities to the tank. plus it's work that you gotta do several times a day if you tank is doing well and has any amount of a calcium demand.
it would'nt be that fun to kalkdrip for a 125g tank daily, i would just go with calcium reactor
gravity dripping kalk is dumb. too much work and inconsistent. too easy to drip too fast or have it clog and not drip at all. that's the whole reason for a kalk reactor. you hook it up to your autotopoff, dump in a few cups of kalk, then forget about it for a month or more. if you can't make your own (they are a joke) or afford to buy one, just get an aqualifter or even better a cheap $40 peristaltic off ---- to dose from a trash can that is filled with kalk. either off a timer or wire in a relay to a float switch.
why run a kak-drip if you already have a calcium reactor?
why run a calcium reactor if kalk- drip keeps levels stable?
you are not speaking from experience, are you?
a calcium reactor can also be a bad idea if you dont have it from day one. i would never start running one on an established tank. there hard to dial in and can OD your tank.
only if you are a moron. it's *way* easier to crash a tank from kalk than a calcium reactor. it's very easy to start off slow with the calcium reactor, then slowly bump it up to get balanced with your demand. just do your tests every couple days, and turn the knob as needed. just go slow.
ive heard of kalkreactors, but ive never really read up on them or learned how they work.
then why in the world are you trying to give advice on things you don't know anything about?
you guys need to get out more. there are plenty of boards out there full of good information where people actually know what they are talking about. i come here only when i'm bored, and every single time it's a bunch of morons who don't know what they are talking about arguing with one poor soul who does (in this case jocox)
 

teen

Active Member
Originally Posted by jocoxVT
I dont think that 3 minor adjustments should be considered problematic at all. Tanks mature, calcium demand changes, with those changes you have to change your calcium reactor to maintain your needs.
As for the kalk slurry for me that isnt logical at all I have a high demand for calcium in my system and kalk was not maintaining it either via slurry or dripping. Also have you thought about the impurties in kalk that you are dosing straight into your system with kalk reactors you can see where they seperate inside the body. Randy Holmes Farley has done articles on kalk slurry you may want to read them. I am not saying you cant maintain YOUR needs with this method but I cannot with how much kalk slurry I would need to add it would spike my pH. Also a kalk slurry cannot be an automated feature while both my kalk reacotr and calcium reactor are automated in which I do not have to worry about them.
ok, maybe not problematic, but when i said there tough to dial in, you were puzzled. what im getting at is that there just another piece of equipment to have to keep up on, and imo, theres nothing harder to keep working correctly than a calcium reactor. theres many things that can go wrong with them.
ive read a lot of info on the kalk slurry and i always skim as wet as possible i stop just before flooding my collection cup, so im not that worried about impurities. i mean obviously the skimmer doesnt take it all out, but ive been doing this for months now and i havent noticed any ill effects.
and i dont believe that you dont have to worry about your calcium reactor.
 

aztec reef

Active Member
well, why don't you teach us some of you're not dumb ways.. better yet show me the money!! where's your tank? i've been doing this for ten years and there's nothing you can teach me...
come on give us your input, instead of coming like a little child . where's your title at?
***)
 

teen

Active Member
Originally Posted by manderx
then why in the world are you trying to give advice on things you don't know anything about?

you come in here calling us a bunch of morons, you're the moron. i havent given one piece of advice on a kalkreactor. read the post and please point out where i talked about a kalkreactor, other than saying i dont know anything about them.
ill just ignore the rest of your post it was so dumb.
you came in here trying to be smart and witty, and it failed.
 

jocoxvt

Member
Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
well, why don't you teach us some of you're not dumb ways.. better yet show me the money!! where's your tank? i've been doing this for ten years and there's nothing you can teach me...
come on give us your input, instead of coming like a little child . where's your title at?
***)
Dont know if this was intended for me but are You going to show us a picture of your tank then as well?
Originally Posted by Teen

and i dont believe that you dont have to worry about your calcium reactor.
I dont...and obviously there is nothing I can do to change your mind but have you ever owned a calcium reactor? Have you ever set one up? Try it they arent hard to do you will be pleasently suprised.
Plain and simple for those with heavy calcium demands they can not get along with kalk alone therefore some other form of supplementation is required.
 

jocoxvt

Member
Originally Posted by teen
ok, maybe not problematic, but when i said there tough to dial in, you were puzzled.
Where did I ever say I was puzzled?
 

manderx

New Member
you can find my gallery and tank thread on one of the other 'central' boards, same username. i'm not going to waste any more time here. i'll probably be banned here within a few minutes anyway....
 

aztec reef

Active Member
jocoxVT said:
Dont know if this was intended for me but are You going to show us a picture of your tank then as well?
not at all, it's for that moronmanderx, that comes here and thinks he's the ----.. i'm waiting for him to teach me something new..but i think i scared him off..
 

aztec reef

Active Member
Originally Posted by manderx
you can find my gallery and tank thread on one of the other 'central' boards, same username. i'm not going to waste any more time here. i'll probably be banned here within a few minutes anyway....

i know who you are.!! i'm part of that club too..but i won't tell you which.. so you better check yourself before you wreck your self!! ***)
 

jocoxvt

Member
Originally Posted by teen
nevermind. im done arguing.
to each his own. :happyfish
I dont think it is arguing at all I think it is a good discussion. There are many misconceptions in this hobby and I feel us as hobbiest should be out helping others so they dont fall into the same misconceptions.
Originally Posted by Aztec Reef

i know who you are.!! i'm part of that club too..but i won't tell you which.. so you better check yourself before you wreck your self!!
I am sure he is shaking in his boots with that line

Not suppose to be a knock at you Aztec but I havent heard that line in a long time. None the less this is a discussion board folks we should be able to discuss things rationally if we can do that we can all learn from each other.
 
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