Kick-Ich

[lietz06]

Originally Posted by outsdr2
http:///forum/post/3114865
Hello did you raise your temp? I also agree with dsmccain that temp must play a role in whether kickich works or not.
no, i just followed the directions on the bottle. everyone is still doing great...water sure does look a heck of a lot better now that i can turn the filters n skimmer back on...crystal clear!

 

[luvmyreef]

Never used it. However, when my yellow tang came down with the nasty stuff, the advice I got was this: Use a natural cure. Garlic Extreme is the answer. Add 1 drop per 10 gallons. This builds the fish's immune system, etc., and does not harm corals, inverts, etc. And I can tell you from experience that this really did work, and I have not had a problem with ich since, and my tank has been established for over 5 years. It is the only thing that I used to treat him and it worked, Lucky? Maybe. Hope this helps.

 

[beth]

Garlic Extreme had nothing to do with the curing of ich, sine any "cure" in garlic is long since gone with the bottled garlic products.
Your fish were just very lucky.

 

[luvmyreef]

I have to disagree since it was the only thing I used on him. Also, the local pet store had the same problem and while I was there talking to the man I mentioned garlic extreme to him, which he then used, a week later when I went back for some fish food, he told me that it took care of his problem. Since it doesnt harm your tank, I would recommend that people try this first rather than any copper or other chemical treatment, since I have seen proven results.

 

[ophiura]

I have also seen "proven" results by doing nothing at all...so I can sell some of that
OK, so let's say it "worked"
The reality is that it is that it doesn't mean too much if it is gone if you just go through the same mechanisms of reintroducing it.
So, IMO, you need to seriously assess WHY you had this problem, what the stress in the tank was, or you are doomed to repeat it. JMO.

 

[luvmyreef]

For sure. PREVENTION! That is why a quarantine tank is so important when buying new fish and coral. Lessoned learned. for at the time I did not have one set up. Tangs get stressed very easily and are easy victims to ick. Buyers beware.

 

[novahobbies]

A word of caution: Kick Ic is very dangerous to green and spotted mandarins!!! Kich Ich is basically a "pepper sauce" that acts as a minor irritant in the water, causing your fish to develop a thicker slime coat that (supposedly) the ich can't burrow through to attach to the fish. This is all well and good, but when the fish already has a thick slime coat (mandarins) and small gill opperculi (also, mandarins) the kick-ich can cause theor slime coat to become so exxesive it slimes over their gill opperculi, essentially suffocating the fish. I tried this product a while back, and it worked....but it iced my Mandarin. Just putting the word out...if you have a mandarin, get him out of the tank of you're going to try this product!!

 

[dingus890]

Hey I am in Maine too.
I have used Kick Ich twice and the Ich has always come back. I put all my fish in a quarantine and put the temp to 82 and did Hypo of 1.014 (That is the lowest I go as IMO If you go as low as 1.009, It creates more stress for the fish lowering they immune system..just my opinion

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So far I see no spots on my Black and White clown. He was peppered with them before treatment Fish have been treated for about a week and a half. Going to continue treatment for another 2 or 3 weeks. I will also get a neon goby and some cleaner shrimp as future insurance.
Ich is a huge pain. Hope you win the battle.

 

[oceansidefish]

If you happen to get a bit of it here and there I have seen really good results with just keeping fish fat and happy.... If it gets worse then Hypo is really the only sure fire treatment.

 

[noah's nemo]

I thought warming up the water only worked in freshwater ich. IDK,thought i read that somewhere.Anyway, i just dealt with ich a few weeks ago.I did a FW dip for 3 and half min. and you could actually see the ich detaching itself and almost melting in a sense.Hard to explain,but that is what i will always do now, if i get it again. There is a FW dip thread on here too.

 

[al mc]

Originally Posted by novahobbies
http:///forum/post/3120064
A word of caution: Kick Ic is very dangerous to green and spotted mandarins!!! Kich Ich is basically a "pepper sauce" that acts as a minor irritant in the water, causing your fish to develop a thicker slime coat that (supposedly) the ich can't burrow through to attach to the fish. This is all well and good, but when the fish already has a thick slime coat (mandarins) and small gill opperculi (also, mandarins) the kick-ich can cause theor slime coat to become so exxesive it slimes over their gill opperculi, essentially suffocating the fish. I tried this product a while back, and it worked....but it iced my Mandarin. Just putting the word out...if you have a mandarin, get him out of the tank of you're going to try this product!!
pepper? The KickIch I have used in the past and the one I thought we were discussing (made by Ruby Reef) is a compound similar to metronidazole an anti protozoal/antibiotic...no mention of other ingredients. Am I wrong?

 

[al mc]

Originally Posted by dingus890
http:///forum/post/3120257
Hey I am in Maine too.
I have used Kick Ich twice and the Ich has always come back. I put all my fish in a quarantine and put the temp to 82 and did Hypo of 1.014 (That is the lowest I go as IMO If you go as low as 1.009, It creates more stress for the fish lowering they immune system..just my opinion

)
So far I see no spots on my Black and White clown. He was peppered with them before treatment Fish have been treated for about a week and a half. Going to continue treatment for another 2 or 3 weeks. I will also get a neon goby and some cleaner shrimp as future insurance.
Ich is a huge pain. Hope you win the battle.

If you do hyposalinity as a treatment for Ich I would suggest shooting for a SG of 1.009. There are many reports on these boards about failure of the hyposalinity if you do not get the SG down to 1.009 and maitain it at that level for 3-4 weeks after the last visible parasite is gone from the fish.
The hyposalinity state of 1.009, when done correctly, is actually an easier
salinity for the fish to live in for a short time (6-8 weeks) as the osmotic gradient between the fish's internal SG is closer to 1.009 than 1.026. Some hobbyist even keep their QT SG lower than normal ocean sg of 1.025-6 as lower salinity actually seems to decrease the stress levels of new fish thus saving energy to help keep their immune systems in better shape during their transition period to a new home.

 

[vsecret]

Well i have used it - and it worked great. Not everything will work the same in every ones tank. I figure, try what YOU think will work. Everything is trial and error. If it works GREAT! If not, try something else

 

[dingus890]

Originally Posted by vsecret
http:///forum/post/3120405
Well i have used it - and it worked great. Not everything will work the same in every ones tank. I figure, try what YOU think will work. Everything is trial and error. If it works GREAT! If not, try something else

^And that is great for you. My only caution is watch out as it may come back. When I used Kick Ich I was so happy when the Ich seemed to be gone. I was praising Kick Ich on message boards. Then out of the blue it came back within 1 week of not using Kick Ich. I was also using the double dosage for heavy infections.
Just keep an eye out for it as it is a tricky creature

 

[dingus890]

Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/3120330
If you do hyposalinity as a treatment for Ich I would suggest shooting for a SG of 1.009. There are many reports on these boards about failure of the hyposalinity if you do not get the SG down to 1.009 and maitain it at that level for 3-4 weeks after the last visible parasite is gone from the fish.
The hyposalinity state of 1.009, when done correctly, is actually an easier
salinity for the fish to live in for a short time (6-8 weeks) as the osmotic gradient between the fish's internal SG is closer to 1.009 than 1.026. Some hobbyist even keep their QT SG lower than normal ocean sg of 1.025-6 as lower salinity actually seems to decrease the stress levels of new fish thus saving energy to help keep their immune systems in better shape during their transition period to a new home.
I have tried 1.009 in the past and I have found 1.014 works really well. Just my opinion