Lighting Question

scotty37

Member
T he guy who had this was big into corals, and he was using the reflectors with no chiller, which means he had to be using the mogul MH lighting??
 

farslayer

Active Member
Hmm, two foot over the water and a deep tank? Definitely not a good idea I wouldn't think. Do you know exactly how deep this tank is? A higher watt bulb will be able to penetrate more deeply into the water. A metal halide basically covers two feet side to side, so you need one for every two feet of tank length. If I were you, I would install 400W 14K DE bulbs. Do you know exactly how deep the tank is? Looking again at your post, you said the tank was two foot deep? If you can lower the lights to about 10 inches over the surface, you will be fine with 150 or 250 watt bulbs.
 

scotty37

Member
Its hard for me to tell exactly without starting it up. Its quite large. the tank is 2 by 2 wide, 4 long, so 2 would cover it perfectly. I can see what you mean by the height. I like all the area in the canopy to keep from forcing heat on the water. I will look into your suggested bulb. How much am i looking for one of those? I know I am looking at 400-450 on the first thought.
 

farslayer

Active Member
The height can help, but honestly not that much. The best approach is to get some nice fans to keep them cool, and of course a sump will help keep the water cool too. I would just go for a couple of 250W HQI and lower the lights to about ten inches up. You can supplement with some T5s or even PC lighting for your actinics.
 

scotty37

Member
The whole end of the tank is a decent size fan. The tank is drilled out already so I am buying a sump/fuge. What do i need to do to get the lights lower
 

farslayer

Active Member
Actinic lights are blues; anything below about 13 feet is used to blue light due to the refraction of light into the blue spectrum. Also, blue looks cool :) to get them lower...not sure, esp. if they are already built in. Do you HAVE to use that canopy?
 

scotty37

Member
Its custom built, so I would LIKE to use the canopy. The top looks retarded without it. I definitely agree with the blue look giving the cool appearance. There are a lot of options out there
 

farslayer

Active Member
Depending on how the canopy is constructed, you could mount chains inside and from them hang boards; mounted to the boards could be your lights. The LFS does this for high canopies, so it's another option. I'd probably recommend the 250W minimum if you're looking to go down almost four feet.
 

scotty37

Member
If I would get the plug and play t-5 retro kit, that comes with 2 bulbs. Ive seen a choice of bulbs. This thing seems much cheaper... no good? Would I want a 36" for a 48 " tank? It seems like If i centered it over the area left over from the overflow, it would cover this area pretty well.
 

scotty37

Member
good enough, is that type of system any good? or am I better off with what we have been talking about? I just want to get the best value... im trying to do this without a divorce lol
 

farslayer

Active Member
T5s are great, but maybe go with four bulbs? I'm worried that your lights are just so far high that you won't get good penetration. Not that four bulbs will help penetration (it won't). Honestly, I'd go for the MH setup and use the T5 as supplemental since you don't want to run the MH all day.
 

scotty37

Member
so we are looking at 2 250 watt MH retro kits. and then T5 actinic, what is the exact title wording to search for that?
Also, Thanks so much for giving me so much of your time and knowledge. I have learned alot... hopefully soon we will have the best setup covered so I can order and be done lol
 

farslayer

Active Member
Well, it's against board rules to post search terms for other sites, but if you just look up some retro kits you'll find plenty of sources. You may even be able to find a good kit which has the MH and T5 together. I'd say 250W HQI is the minimum you'll want, my biggest concern is the depth.
No worries either, I was a beginner once too :)
 

scotty37

Member
Thanks. I cant even measure the exact depth of the canopy for about 3 weeks. Its packed into storage for the new house. Here is a photo
 
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