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Shilpan

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That would be ideal!

But only the rubble section off to the left of the picture is baffled off. The sand and bare area are just separated by a large rock hahaha..
I find since its low flow the sand doesn't move anywhere anyway.
 

sberto

Member
Well large rock works too. In sue the pods love it! But you said since it's low flow, that's where I get confused because doesn't your return pump dictate how fast water moves through your sump? Ie.1200GPH through the main is also the same through the sump?
 

Shilpan

Member
Yeah so the water flow or volume of water through is dictated by the pump, and the refugium has the same volume of water moving through it but the speed is much slower.

The water velocity in that area is slow. That's because the refugium area has like a water fall into it that is much WIDER than the drain pipe. So to get 1200gph through the refugium it doesn't need to flow as fast through the refugium as it does the drain pipe (physics stuff if that interests you).
 

Shilpan

Member
It's like how if you compress a hose pipe, the water flows out faster because it has a narrower area to fit the same amount of water through. Refugium is the opposite
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
The wider the sump or baffles are the gentler the water velocity will be. I'm using a 1500gph pump that puts out about 700gph after head loss.

My sump is divided in a way that allows me to cut the flow rate in half going through each section so roughly 350gph flowing over my baffles. If I close off one side the water velocity becomes much faster and I can hear it and it becomes annoying. My sump is 18" wide.

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sberto

Member
2quills does yours drain into the refugium? And is that the carbon reactor connected by the return pump?
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
2quills does yours drain into the refugium? And is that the carbon reactor connected by the return pump?
Well I have two overflows in the display tank and each one has a herbie style drain set up.

One side drains into the refugium and the other side drains into the skimmer chamber. It all flows into the middle return chamber.

Yes, it's a media reactor in the middle. I have GFO and carbon in there.

There's also a 16g auto top off tank to the left of the sump that's hard to see that holds all of the fresh water.
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
It's essentially a copy of one of Mark Melev's designs so I can't take all of the credit. I always thought there was a little bit of genius behind the idea and the design worked well with my over all concept so I went with it.

A couple of things i liked that made it different are the ability to shut off flow to one side or the other for maintenance and yet still keep the return pump going.

I don't get all of the highly oxygenated water from my skimmer going through my refugium (less ideal for algae growth or anaerobic bacteria). Yet pods from the fuge can still easily migrate to the return chamber.
 

sberto

Member
I like it. I was under the impression that the media reactors are these big massive things but obviously not. I was going to try and Make a spot in the sump to run a carbon bag but maybe a reactor is the way to go. Who knows. Again I want simplicity and silence.

I really appreciate all the help I'm getting as well so thanks! I'll have to meet with the guy that's going to build it and get the measurements so that I can see what will work. ATO would be great as well.
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
ATO's are a God send. I replenish the freshwater reservoir once every two weeks and right now it's topping off the system about 8-9 times a day.

Media reactors come in all shapes and sizes for the various types media out there. The one I'm using is just for carbon or gfo. Those don't need to be very big unless you have a huge tank. But running a reactor is far more effective than using the bags.
 

one-fish

Active Member
Been looking at some reactors right now running my DIY one and hanging bags but there are not that expensive, relativity simple Like the way you mounted yours. ATO would be nice but like sitting in a chair ......no room...Humm ATO chair...never work..Lol
 

lmforbis

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One of the BRS TV videos from a couple years ago they used an otttoman that opened and put the auto reservoir in that.
 

one-fish

Active Member
Well I guess then it might not be a bad idea......maybe with a little work I could ...Lol...Like that show Tanked...cool but which they would do a revisit of a year old tank...like to see
 

sberto

Member
An ATO would be great. But again figuring out how big is another question. and room. I guess it depends on evaporation.

What is GFO?
 
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