Mandarin Dragonet

verojeremy

Member
OK it's to the right of her fin its like a line/indention.
So anyone think it would be OK with the hawkfish if not is there any easy ways to catch these fish lol are they easier to catch than wrasses.
 

verojeremy

Member
OK so my lights are out and the hawkfish look like it's in a good place to catch so what I am saying is do you think I should get rid of him like return him?
 

gemmy

Active Member
I think the issue with the hawkfish is that they eat the same diet and this can cause issues for the mandarin.
 

verojeremy

Member
this is from reefkeeping.com The Hawks of the Sea the x is at may coexist:




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Generally dragonets are ignored, but some overly aggressive Hawkfish may attack them.




 

verojeremy

Member
Most appreiciated if I can get an answer now because my lfs is closed from Mon. to Wend. and he looks really easy to catch.
 

verojeremy

Member
I mean even if I get my mandarin to eat mysis or artic pods I still can't have the hawkfish like I want the best for him but it's just catching the fish.
 

gemmy

Active Member
If you want to try it out, go for it. I would just keep a close eye on the mandarin. I would also be concerned about the wrasses with the mandarin. The mandarin is not exhibiting signs of a concave belly, however when it does show signs of a concave belly it is usually too late. The mandarin typically at this point has given up its will to live.
 

novahobbies

Well-Known Member
If you're not seeing any aggression between them at this point, I'd leave well enough alone. I don't have a Falco, but from what I've read since it's one of the smaller hawks it will probably do fine with your mandarin. Your idea about target feeding the girl starting with live brine to start is a good one, just be patient with her. Any potential (and I don't expect this to be major, anyway...) food competition should be offset by a few target feedings now and then.
Gemmy, in my experience the concave belly is NOT a last sign, and is actually reversible. The point of no return from what I've seen is usually the decimation of the muscle along the flanks. I've kept 4 mandarins if memory serves (and I'm stuffed with headcold medicine so this is spotty at best). My first one was lost to dosing the tank with "natural" ich medication....LETHAL to anything with an already thick slime layer BTW...., the male and female that I have now are 2 1/2 and 3 1/2 years old, and one that I rescued from a friend that I tried to resurrect.
Of my two current fish, the female had a concave belly when I transferred her from old seahorse setup into the big 110g tank. That tank was large enough that there were more than enuff pods to go around, and she bounced back very quickly. Naturally, it also helped that both mandarins learned to eat frozen in time.
The "rescue" fish came to me in very poor shape. I had her in a net breeder and tried to ply her with live brine, live tigger pods, even tisbe pods in the breeder. She was terribly thin and her flanks were heartbreaking to see, and she didn't respond to any food presented. I may have a picture of her somewhere; let me try to find it so I can show you what I mean.
 

verojeremy

Member
OK so what I should do is, just watch to see if she gets skinnier?
I mean like I tries last night and he juts like goes upside down and stuff.
I will try to get live brine today.
 

novahobbies

Well-Known Member
If you can see a lot of pods on your glass, chances are you'll be fine for now. That's the telltale I always use anyway....not sure how accurate it is, but my gut feeling is if there enough pods to be noticeable on the glass, there's probably enough in there for the mandarin to get by on for a while. Keep an eye on the pod population (it does seem to ebb and flood) just to be safe.
 

verojeremy

Member
Do you have a picture of the concave belly from the side I am trying to get a picture but the camera dosent focus fast enough.
 

verojeremy

Member
OK I got a good look at my mandarin it dosent look that bad just a little skinny like I can see the rib line or something but its not that noticable.
 

novahobbies

Well-Known Member
What you think of as a rib line is probably the lateral line -- even fat dragonets have that. And no, I don't have any pics of the concave belly, but I bet you could google it.
 
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