mandarin question getting another

[bill109]

ok wel i have a mandarin in my 30 gallon and am upgrading to a 75 soon so i was wondering if i can get another when i get the tnank set up or maybe another before? not sure but i have a damsel and he eat the dorsal fin on his so i cant rreallyy teel if hes a male or female but can they be the same --- without fighting cus ive heard a story of one mandarin killing anohter in the same tank.

 

[rykna]

I have a madarine and from what I've read the males will tear each other apart. One of the threads here talks a one mandrine biting into another.
so one male andgo hog wild on the females,

 

[lovethesea]

I would not recomend a mandrin in a 30 gallon at all. If you can get about 75-100 lbs of LR in your 75 it should be OK. But generally only if the tank has been established for awhile. They need lots and lots of pods to eat. That would be just for 1 mandrin. I don't think you would have enough food source for 2

 

[puffer32]

Originally Posted by bill109
ok wel i have a mandarin in my 30 gallon and am upgrading to a 75 soon so i was wondering if i can get another when i get the tnank set up or maybe another before? not sure but i have a damsel and he eat the dorsal fin on his so i cant rreallyy teel if hes a male or female but can they be the same --- without fighting cus ive heard a story of one mandarin killing anohter in the same tank.

That was my thread, I wittnesed this attack, I also advised you to take the mandrin back, I see you didn't think much of my advice

Now your damsel is chewing up your mandrins fins

 

[puffer32]

Originally Posted by lovethesea
I would not recomend a mandrin in a 30 gallon at all. If you can get about 75-100 lbs of LR in your 75 it should be OK. But generally only if the tank has been established for awhile. They need lots and lots of pods to eat. That would be just for 1 mandrin. I don't think you would have enough food source for 2
Don't waste your time on this guy, he does what he wants, I adviced him to take the mandrin back on another thread, he has 15 lbs of LR in an unestablished tank with no fuge, now he wants to add another one :scared: His damsel is killing it, and he wants to get another one for it to torment

we got a brickwall here

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by puffer32
Don't waste your time on this guy, he does what he wants, I adviced him to take the mandrin back on another thread, he has 15 lbs of LR in an unestablished tank with no fuge, now he wants to add another one :scared: His damsel is killing it, and he wants to get another one for it to torment

we got a brickwall here

well after readign some more threads here ill wait to do so and btw my lfs said it would be ok i hate saying this but this isnt my primary source of info i rely on me lfs i know you all hate this but i dont want to hear everyone say that it isnt a good idea.. beside i got him some pods and the damsel is gone.. out of the tank so he will be just fine. ppl say that about the wall thing you mentoend but im still new to this so i trust what the lfs says and use this for other problems idk why but you said he wouldnt live well he will cus i have bought PODS in the bottle!

 

[puffer32]

Your lfs only wants to make money so he will sell you a mandrin, he could care less if it lives or dies

No one says you have to listen to the advice we give you, so why ask? No one else on here is going to advise you to keep this fish, bottled pods won't be enough, and there is nothing inabout your tank thats in that fishes favor, and now you are thinking of getting another, if your lfs says thats ok, he should be shut down! We have nothing to gain by telling you can't keep this fish long term, so listen to the guy who says you can do it, you are only going to believe what you want to any how, I am done with this thread

The only thing i want to do now is protect that fish, and i can't, but at least i tried

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by puffer32
Your lfs only wants to make money so he will sell you a mandrin, he could care less if it lives or dies

No one says you have to listen to the advice we give you, so why ask? No one else on here is going to advise you to keep this fish, bottled pods won't be enough, and there is nothing inabout your tank thats in that fishes favor, and now you are thinking of getting another, if your lfs says thats ok, he should be shut down! We have nothing to gain by telling you can't keep this fish long term, so listen to the guy who says you can do it, you are only going to believe what you want to any how, I am done with this thread

The only thing i want to do now is protect that fish, and i can't, but at least i tried

ok so you think that 100 % that the fish should go back and i have dedcided against another and if i keep this one. if you know and i mean know then this fish will be going back when it opens again im new so please dont get mad but i like how he looks and i did research and my lfs okayed it prolly shouldnt even of mentioned that but thinking it over you do have a point..
im sorry if i flamed you guys/ladies in anyway.
sorry

ok well thanx for the info
heres another question for you..
when i up grade to a 75 gallon i would like a Heniochus Butterfly and the minimum is a 50 gallon so the tank is okay for size but i want to know about the diet and them eting i would make sure he was eating in the lfs beforhand but would like some ppl with expiernces with them? i havent even decided yet so don t scream at me if its a bad idea it was just a thought
have a good night

 

[gsd]

bill109
Just likes to ask questions but never ever likes to follow advice given by others as it seems little billie knows all and plays dumbA$$ Easy come easy go......don't ya just know his LFS loves him!

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by GSD
bill109
Just likes to ask questions but never ever likes to follow advice given by others as it seems little billie knows all and plays dumbA$$ Easy come easy go......don't ya just know his LFS loves him!
can i ask why you keep coming back to my threads you know that you dont like newbies so leave me alone and btw this isnt my primary source of info so please stop posting rude comments

 

[anonome]

I don't usually intervein when people are bashing each other, but I feel I must in this instance, so please hear me out. I too have posted that the mandarin would not benefit from staying in his tank with only 15lbs of live rock. I believe him when he states that maybe we have a point. So, I am hoping that "we can all get along."
He says he is new to this and his lfs has offered to help, yes, they are just wanting a sell. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt that he will return the mandarin and wait until his new tank is mature.
Feeding live pods from the bottle is a kind gesture, the mandarin will appreciate it, but will not last long. Only because they will be devoured long before they can multiply. At $20.00 a bottle, at least this how much they want here, this is an expensive adventure.
I am coming to your defense, I only hope that you think real hard on the long term outcome of this mandarin. I wish you well in this hobby, and sometimes we hear things that we just don't want to. This is what makes me want to come to your aid, so to speak. I would hate for you to get a negetive feeling from such a rewarding hobby.

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by Anonome
I don't usually intervein when people are bashing each other, but I feel I must in this instance, so please hear me out. I too have posted that the mandarin would not benefit from staying in his tank with only 15lbs of live rock. I believe him when he states that maybe we have a point. So, I am hoping that "we can all get along."
He says he is new to this and his lfs has offered to help, yes, they are just wanting a sell. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt that he will return the mandarin and wait until his new tank is mature.
Feeding live pods from the bottle is a kind gesture, the mandarin will appreciate it, but will not last long. Only because they will be devoured long before they can multiply. At $20.00 a bottle, at least this how much they want here, this is an expensive adventure.
I am coming to your defense, I only hope that you think real hard on the long term outcome of this mandarin. I wish you well in this hobby, and sometimes we hear things that we just don't want to. This is what makes me want to come to your aid, so to speak. I would hate for you to get a negetive feeling from such a rewarding hobby.
this board needs more ppl like you

they all assume that i wont return him due to other experiences i had when i was a few days into the hobby (well most do)

 

[gsd]

Uh huh! yea right, whatever dude...your still not one to take advice, so face the facts....until you do your always gonna have a screwed up tank and a situation in a crisis

 

[gsd]

Uh huh! yea right, whatever dude...your still not one to take advice, so face the facts....until you do your always gonna have a screwed up tank and a situation in a crisis........better stick with chia pets or pet rocks!

 

[imurnamine]

I agree that not all people will take the advice. They wait to hear what they want to hear... and if they want something bad enough, they'll get it, whether or not it is a good idea or not.
But flaming is nothing good to do... We should all be happy, here!

 

[reef diver]

FYI unless you can verify ur LFS info, dont buy it, thy try to sell u things its their buisness, we hav eno bioas in trying to sell u stuff, so id advise taking ur afdvice from here. When i get advice from my LFS, i re research it here, and now i suficiently trust my LFS not to try to sell info.

 

[puffer32]

I didn't believe he was going to take the mandrin back cause after myself and others told him he should, he posted a thread about getting another one! And yes I was hard on him about that cause i love these fish and was trying to shame him into returning it. I was angry about it.
So take him back and someday you can set up that 75 and put in a fuge in, then you can get 2 if you harvest enough pods.
As far as the butterfly. I won't flame you, did enough of that over the mandrin

DO as much research about this fish before you waste more money on a fish you can't keep, but don't ask your lfs ok? He doesn't get my vote on one you can trust after telling you that you can keep a mandrin.