mandarins? and pods?

peckhead

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why do these fish need to be in an established tank? they eat the pods i have heard? where do the pods come from and what do they do? i have some pods now i believe. when i turn on the lights after its been dark for a while i see a bunch of things like ants running around the rocks.
 

who dey

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Originally Posted by peckhead
why do these fish need to be in an established tank? they eat the pods i have heard? where do the pods come from and what do they do? i have some pods now i believe. when i turn on the lights after its been dark for a while i see a bunch of things like ants running around the rocks.
you kinda just answered ur own question. An established reef contains hundeds of thousands of pods and a mandrin can deplete the pod count to almost extinction if the tank isn't both mature enough and large enough to overcompensate for a mandrin's diet.
 

peckhead

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so once you have some pods(which i do from some very nice live rock that i got from a very established tank) the pods will continue to reproduce? and what is it that the pods do?
 

patandlace

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Originally Posted by peckhead
so once you have some pods(which i do from some very nice live rock that i got from a very established tank) the pods will continue to reproduce? and what is it that the pods do?
The pods are pretty much the only source of food for mandrins. A refugium with chaeto would be very helpfull it would give the pods a safe area to reproduce.
 

peckhead

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i dont have a refugium but i have a wetdry. so a mandirin would eat all the pods?
and what do pods do if you dont have a manderin
 

chipmaker

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I know I am in rthe minority here but I have had a Spotted mandarin in a 10 gal tank for over a year now.I do not propose anyone going out and doing it though. I ha d a 10 gal tank with 2" sand bed lots of chaeto and Calurpea in it as well as it was just about packed solid with live rock in large as well as rubble. It wa used as a tank to keep some macro algae in, the live rock I acquired alive and the sand alive...just incase. It had on a AC hob filter which also had rubble in it. It was probbaly like that for close to two years. Always adding some live rock or removing live rock for varous projects. There wa a bunch of small serpand brittle stars, and I did pitch in some mud whelks and ceriths and a couple of blue legged hermits. I was offered a mandarin from a person that had one that attempted to keep it in a unestablished tank. I placed it in this tank (hardly any room to swim) merely as a temp home for it until I could find someone to take it or until I oculd carry it to the lfs I patronize. Anyway its been there ever since and doing just fine. Still have tons of pods which repro al the time. The fish does fine and it really does not need much room for swiming. So I guess its safe for me to assume this is where this fish will stay as it sure does not look like its depeleting the pods. I had thought about trying to breed them, but talked myself out of that as its doing just fine byiself the way it is so why mess it up.
 

peckhead

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well i have about 40 # of "live rock". abotu 30 pounds of it is mostly white with purple spots on it and starting to turn a little bit more purple. the other 10 or so pounds is live and from an established tank. so what im wondering is,
if i get a mandarin will all my pods be gone?
what are the benifits of having pods(with out a mandarin)?
the only time i see the pods is when i turn the lights on after it is realyl dark so i have no idea how many i have or anythign like that...
 

chipmaker

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Yea I guess your one question keeps getting evaded. PODs are a source of food for other critters, plus they help in terms of keeping the tank somehwat cleaner with them eating certain things of which I really do not know what they actually eat. But in all reality NO yu do not have to have pods in a tank if yu do not have any critters that depend on them, and they are just a by product of liverock and sand, that happens to be benefical in some cases.
 

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by peckhead
well i have about 40 # of "live rock". abotu 30 pounds of it is mostly white with purple spots on it and starting to turn a little bit more purple. the other 10 or so pounds is live and from an established tank. so what im wondering is,
if i get a mandarin will all my pods be gone?
what are the benifits of having pods(with out a mandarin)?
the only time i see the pods is when i turn the lights on after it is realyl dark so i have no idea how many i have or anythign like that...
You have no where near enough to sustain a mandarine. They need 100+lbs of live rock that is at least a few years old.
 
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