mandirin goby being LAZY

jacklax

Member
Be careful...a lot of lfs advertise that the live rock is cured...and it's not. This can cause some major issues when introduced into your tank. Live rock will also experience more die off if it stays out of water for any extended period of time...more issues.
 

fishychick

Member
If you are worried about the fish, yes buy the copepods and have them overnighted. I bought a bottle and received them yesterday.
However, I have a 144 gallon with a mandarin and lots of fish and at least 200 lbs. of live rock. I am working on a fuge, but I don't have one yet.
As for the purchased copepods, I took the opened bottle and put the whole bottle in the water. With my finger over the top, I moved my hand lower in the tank so I could squeeze it out into the lr, so the copepods could disperse around and away from my filter. BTW, turn off your filter and protein skimmer. Keep the tank or area dimly lit. My mandarin which was out and hunting along with my other plantivores became very active. I could see them eating the more mature copepods. Yes, it was expensive but worth it to make sure my mandarin is healthy until the fuge is together. GOOD LUCK.
And definitely buy some cured lr. I would do a little each week and make a hiding area for your mandarin. Too much at once could cause a whole other issue if it isn't fully cured.
 

cabin7882

Member
Thank you guys so much for all of your help! I'll get back to you's tommorow and let you know what happens. Do you think a LFS would sell LR and bottled copepods?
 

joshradio

Member
take him back to the LFS and exchange him.... most shops are cool with that... for the main reason that they sell.... I mean, you thought they were pretty so you bought it... other people feel the same way!
But don't expect to get full price trade for what you paid... don't let that stop you, because a dead fish is worth nothing!
 

fishychick

Member
I don't have any stores around here that sell live copepods. But Josh is right to some degree, if you bring him back, they have to share in the responsibility for selling you a pretty fish that has difficult demands to meet. Good luck.
 

cabin7882

Member
thanks guys! I appreciate all of your help. I'll be praying until I get home that he'll be ok and will eat off the LR I will be purchasing tonight!
 

joshradio

Member
AHHHHHHH! you don't plan on just dropping in new LR do you? 9 out of 10 times you'll kick up the cycle and ammonia with die off and kill him and everything else in there!! (if you have anything else in there!)
Just take him back and wait again before you get one! Please?
 

ophiura

Active Member
Buy some live brine...as you know that it eats that.
By microvert, selcon or similar "liquid" diet.
Soak the brine in this for several minutes. The brine will eat some of this food, and this is a bit more of a boost. It is at least something until you can get a better situation for it.
But I suspect, sadly, that it is too late for this fish.
 

fishieness

Active Member
Originally Posted by cabin7882
oh my! I don't want to do that but I though it was Ok to put cured LR right into my tank why no?
as long as its cured and its not being shipped, its perfectly fine. smell it. if it smells bad, then dont buy it because it is uncured. if it smells like the ocean, you are in buisiness.
what is ever better than buying live braine, is hatching babby. it is smaller, but more nutritious than adult which is more nutritious than frozen. but definatly add viatmins to it.
but all in all, i agree that you should take him back to a LFS. Or better yet, if you know anyone in your area that has a tank big enough with enough live rock. I hope to be able to add one at some point. my 40 breeder reef has been set up since april and has about 80 pounds of live rock in it. soon im adding a 30 gallon fuge that will have about 60 pounds. then ill let it mature and MAYBE try one.
 

pallan

Member
Originally Posted by cabin7882
thanks guys! I appreciate all of your help. I'll be praying until I get home that he'll be ok and will eat off the LR I will be purchasing tonight!
its is not the LR that he is going to eat off.
I believe the reason for the 100+ pounds of LR is so that the copepods will have room to hid, grow and propagate. just buying some LR will not mean food for a mandarin. you need alot of rock and alot of time for the rock and system to mature.
I stand by my original advice. get him out go back to the LFS and demand a refund for selling you a fish that experts have a hard time keeping without a mature system.
 
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oreo12

Guest
I have never bought one of them fish but one lfs has a bottel of live pods they sale would,t those work they say that they will help seed a tank.
 

fishieness

Active Member
IMO, adding live pods, unless you can add thousands, isnt going to do much. and the ones you get in bottles, dosent have a hwole lot. But if you add 100 pods into a tank that is 75 gallons, your mandarien is going to ahve a hell of a time finding them, but eventualy will before they will be able to breed.
 
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