Mangrove in sump
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al mc
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Originally Posted by trouble93
http:///forum/post/3076700
I want to add some mangrove plants in my sump. I already have rock rubble in there. Would I need to add sand or mudd as well for them to take root or will they do it with just the rubble. Thanks and I hope everybody has a fun but safe weekend.
One LFS just has them floating in their sump area and they seem ok. Ones I have had in the past did well with their roots in miracle mud. The miracle mud was the layer at the bottom, about 1" deep covred with about 1-2" of sand.
http:///forum/post/3076700
I want to add some mangrove plants in my sump. I already have rock rubble in there. Would I need to add sand or mudd as well for them to take root or will they do it with just the rubble. Thanks and I hope everybody has a fun but safe weekend.
One LFS just has them floating in their sump area and they seem ok. Ones I have had in the past did well with their roots in miracle mud. The miracle mud was the layer at the bottom, about 1" deep covred with about 1-2" of sand.
coralreefer
Active Member
if you just let them float on the water surface they will be fine
trouble93
Member
Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/3076805
One LFS just has them floating in their sump area and they seem ok. Ones I have had in the past did well with their roots in miracle mud. The miracle mud was the layer at the bottom, about 1" deep covred with about 1-2" of sand.
Thanks
http:///forum/post/3076805
One LFS just has them floating in their sump area and they seem ok. Ones I have had in the past did well with their roots in miracle mud. The miracle mud was the layer at the bottom, about 1" deep covred with about 1-2" of sand.
Thanks
trouble93
Member
Originally Posted by coralreefer
http:///forum/post/3076835
if you just let them float on the water surface they will be fine
Thank-you.
http:///forum/post/3076835
if you just let them float on the water surface they will be fine
Thank-you.
pezenfuego
Active Member
Most people that use mangroves use them because they can harvest them for free. They are not very good exporters of nutrients when compared to chaeto, caulerpa, and other macroalgaes.
They will do fine simply afloat as others have said.
They will do fine simply afloat as others have said.
fishkid13
Active Member
Originally Posted by trouble93
http:///forum/post/3077657
I have a Monodactylus argenteus and his home in the wild is around mangroves. Down the line the sump will be his new home( if I can catch him). So that's the plan. A friend of mine is given me about 10 plants to start with.
Cool, nice job on thinking of the fishes behalf. How big is your sump? How fast do mangroves grow?
http:///forum/post/3077657
I have a Monodactylus argenteus and his home in the wild is around mangroves. Down the line the sump will be his new home( if I can catch him). So that's the plan. A friend of mine is given me about 10 plants to start with.
Cool, nice job on thinking of the fishes behalf. How big is your sump? How fast do mangroves grow?
trouble93
Member
Originally Posted by fishkid13
http:///forum/post/3077999
Cool, nice job on thinking of the fishes behalf. How big is your sump? How fast do mangroves grow?
Sump is 50gal. not sure about the growth of the plant but they root pretty fast. Aren't we suppose to think about the fish. I mean aren't we doing this to have a piece of there world in our homes?
http:///forum/post/3077999
Cool, nice job on thinking of the fishes behalf. How big is your sump? How fast do mangroves grow?
Sump is 50gal. not sure about the growth of the plant but they root pretty fast. Aren't we suppose to think about the fish. I mean aren't we doing this to have a piece of there world in our homes?
kspops
Member
Just a quick note on the mangroves, there are 3 types. The Red mangrove which is pretty much what is out there. This is a long pod or seed that usually floats around until it finds a place to grow. If memory serves me right, this is the one that has the roots come up out of the sand that most see (at least I do). Then there is the White mangroves that have a small seed. I have not seen them around my area of Florida, but I believe they are farther south. Finally, there is the Black mangroves. I have only heard of these and not seen any (that I am aware of) in the Tampa area.
I have heard of people "planting" the Red mangroves in sumps, and I have done the same. This is how I did it using a spare piece of egg crate... (this is for coral keeper also)
I am no expert, but this is what I can remember.
I have heard of people "planting" the Red mangroves in sumps, and I have done the same. This is how I did it using a spare piece of egg crate... (this is for coral keeper also)
I am no expert, but this is what I can remember.
trouble93
Member
Originally Posted by kspops
http:///forum/post/3078883
Just a quick note on the mangroves, there are 3 types. The Red mangrove which is pretty much what is out there. This is a long pod or seed that usually floats around until it finds a place to grow. If memory serves me right, this is the one that has the roots come up out of the sand that most see (at least I do). Then there is the White mangroves that have a small seed. I have not seen them around my area of Florida, but I believe they are farther south. Finally, there is the Black mangroves. I have only heard of these and not seen any (that I am aware of) in the Tampa area.
I have heard of people "planting" the Red mangroves in sumps, and I have done the same. This is how I did it using a spare piece of egg crate... (this is for coral keeper also)
I am no expert, but this is what I can remember.
They are red mangroves and they do come from your neck of the woods. Did you use the egg create to stand them up? From what I understand they grow very tall if not cut.
http:///forum/post/3078883
Just a quick note on the mangroves, there are 3 types. The Red mangrove which is pretty much what is out there. This is a long pod or seed that usually floats around until it finds a place to grow. If memory serves me right, this is the one that has the roots come up out of the sand that most see (at least I do). Then there is the White mangroves that have a small seed. I have not seen them around my area of Florida, but I believe they are farther south. Finally, there is the Black mangroves. I have only heard of these and not seen any (that I am aware of) in the Tampa area.
I have heard of people "planting" the Red mangroves in sumps, and I have done the same. This is how I did it using a spare piece of egg crate... (this is for coral keeper also)
I am no expert, but this is what I can remember.
They are red mangroves and they do come from your neck of the woods. Did you use the egg create to stand them up? From what I understand they grow very tall if not cut.
kspops
Member
As in the picture, I have them 'standing' on end as though they were in the water. And yes you will have to cut them back in a couple years. As stated, they do grow slow. that is why they only allow a 25% cut back every couple of years for residents on the water. You should also know that after they start growing leaves, they need to be wiped (the leaves) to remove salt build up.
There are some people that will put the pods in styro foam life jackets to help them float...
There are some people that will put the pods in styro foam life jackets to help them float...
trouble93
Member
Originally Posted by kspops
http:///forum/post/3078896
As in the picture, I have them 'standing' on end as though they were in the water. And yes you will have to cut them back in a couple years. As stated, they do grow slow. that is why they only allow a 25% cut back every couple of years for residents on the water. You should also know that after they start growing leaves, they need to be wiped (the leaves) to remove salt build up.
There are some people that will put the pods in styro foam life jackets to help them float...
So I don't have to put them down in the sand to take root?
http:///forum/post/3078896
As in the picture, I have them 'standing' on end as though they were in the water. And yes you will have to cut them back in a couple years. As stated, they do grow slow. that is why they only allow a 25% cut back every couple of years for residents on the water. You should also know that after they start growing leaves, they need to be wiped (the leaves) to remove salt build up.
There are some people that will put the pods in styro foam life jackets to help them float...
So I don't have to put them down in the sand to take root?
kspops
Member
That will depend on the depth of the water. Out in the wild, The seeds or pods will drop from the mother tree and float around with the tide and flow to an area where it will get caught. This is where it will grow if everything is right. As stated, I am no expert, but if the depth is right, And that will vary with the tide, and the nutrients are there, then the seed will take root and grow.
IMHO, I would put some down in the sand and have a few floating around and see what take root. And good luck with the Terrarium.
IMHO, I would put some down in the sand and have a few floating around and see what take root. And good luck with the Terrarium.
trouble93
Member
Originally Posted by kspops
http:///forum/post/3079265
That will depend on the depth of the water. Out in the wild, The seeds or pods will drop from the mother tree and float around with the tide and flow to an area where it will get caught. This is where it will grow if everything is right. As stated, I am no expert, but if the depth is right, And that will vary with the tide, and the nutrients are there, then the seed will take root and grow.
IMHO, I would put some down in the sand and have a few floating around and see what take root. And good luck with the Terrarium.
Good idea thanks.
http:///forum/post/3079265
That will depend on the depth of the water. Out in the wild, The seeds or pods will drop from the mother tree and float around with the tide and flow to an area where it will get caught. This is where it will grow if everything is right. As stated, I am no expert, but if the depth is right, And that will vary with the tide, and the nutrients are there, then the seed will take root and grow.
IMHO, I would put some down in the sand and have a few floating around and see what take root. And good luck with the Terrarium.
Good idea thanks.
trouble93
Member
Originally Posted by kspops
http:///forum/post/3078883
Just a quick note on the mangroves, there are 3 types. The Red mangrove which is pretty much what is out there. This is a long pod or seed that usually floats around until it finds a place to grow. If memory serves me right, this is the one that has the roots come up out of the sand that most see (at least I do). Then there is the White mangroves that have a small seed. I have not seen them around my area of Florida, but I believe they are farther south. Finally, there is the Black mangroves. I have only heard of these and not seen any (that I am aware of) in the Tampa area.
I have heard of people "planting" the Red mangroves in sumps, and I have done the same. This is how I did it using a spare piece of egg crate... (this is for coral keeper also)
I am no expert, but this is what I can remember.
I got the plants in today and I used your idea with the egg create. Took a piece about 3 12in. wide about 8in. long glued it to two suction cups and placed it on the side of the sump with the root end in the water, but I'm still up in the air about the sand. I'll post pics later.
http:///forum/post/3078883
Just a quick note on the mangroves, there are 3 types. The Red mangrove which is pretty much what is out there. This is a long pod or seed that usually floats around until it finds a place to grow. If memory serves me right, this is the one that has the roots come up out of the sand that most see (at least I do). Then there is the White mangroves that have a small seed. I have not seen them around my area of Florida, but I believe they are farther south. Finally, there is the Black mangroves. I have only heard of these and not seen any (that I am aware of) in the Tampa area.
I have heard of people "planting" the Red mangroves in sumps, and I have done the same. This is how I did it using a spare piece of egg crate... (this is for coral keeper also)
I am no expert, but this is what I can remember.
I got the plants in today and I used your idea with the egg create. Took a piece about 3 12in. wide about 8in. long glued it to two suction cups and placed it on the side of the sump with the root end in the water, but I'm still up in the air about the sand. I'll post pics later.
trouble93
Member
Originally Posted by trouble93
http:///forum/post/3081336
I got the plants in today and I used your idea with the egg create. Took a piece about 3 12in. wide about 8in. long glued it to two suction cups and placed it on the side of the sump with the root end in the water, but I'm still up in the air about the sand. I'll post pics later.
Pics after I got the plants set up
http:///forum/post/3081336
I got the plants in today and I used your idea with the egg create. Took a piece about 3 12in. wide about 8in. long glued it to two suction cups and placed it on the side of the sump with the root end in the water, but I'm still up in the air about the sand. I'll post pics later.
Pics after I got the plants set up
