Marineland In Sump SKimmer ??'s

meowzer

meowzer

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Anyone ever hear or have any experience with the new Marineland Marine Series Advanced In-Sump Skimmers???? The Marine Pro 300 is good up to 300G's.....I'm just doing some research for a possible new skimmer in the future, so any input would be greatly appreciated....
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Sleek and powerful in-sump protein skimmers. These space-saving skimmers come completely assembled and are ready right out of the box for fast installation. Unique column design features bottom-mounted, needle-wheel impeller pump that eliminates the need for bulky external pumps and hoses. Adjustable output lever allows simple adjustment and integrated venturi intake maximizes the quality production of protein skimming bubbles for optimum waste removal.
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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The biggest problem with finding a new skimmer for your tank is going to be the depth issue we talked about. Every skimmer that I'm aware of, doesn't being under more then a foot or so of water, with most liking less then 10".
The Marine Pro 300 has a maximum depth rating of 11.5", and is 23" tall. So if you have that skimmer down 11" in the water, that means you'll need to have 12" of clearance. From the water line in that sump section, to the bottom side of the tank/stand. Probably need a little more to remove the collection cup. Is there that much room?
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Water is about 16 1/2"deep....I have maybe 13" to top of tank from water level......If I place skimmer is 11" deep in the water, I have about 13" from there

SO FAR....knock on wood.....the pump has not stopped again....I really do not want to try anything with it as long as it is running....know what I mean.....Next time (if it stops again) I will lift the pump and skimmer up 3"......that is all I have to work with ...this skimmer and cup is very big
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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I hear you on the space constraints of skimmer choice, but I would opt for another skimmer choice over the Marineland 300. The skimmer capacity if definitely over rated. Your better choices price wise and definitely a better performer in a relative price range would be ASM or Octopus skimmer. I know space is an issue, but you might have to make some change to accomodate a new skimmer.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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WEll I was thinking I could place the skimemr on something to make it higher.....I have no clue what else I could possibly change...I just figured I would start looking around....know what I mean....this way I can plan for price ranges too :(
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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I would try raising it up....doesn't have to be anything fancy.......I was just being honest about skimmer choices as an option, that the 2 I mentioned would be a way better choice IMO, if you do decide to swap out skimmers......I guarantee the Marineland couldn't pull the crud like an ASM does and I'm more than certain the Octopus will outskim the ASM......You will find alot of skimmer manufacturers over rate the capacity of their skimmers. Their pumps aren't even close to what the other 2 offer, and the Octopus with the blaster pumps and the air numbers the blaster pulls.....
Here's what an ASM can do if setup correctly.....
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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I'm not a big fan of their bigger units like the G5 and G6, because of their size and efficiency, but their smaller units are tremendous for the money.....The Octopus if you do alittle searching on will outperform that. Look at a skimmers air it pulls, and the wattage consumed by the pumps....My MRC is a skimming beast, but were talking a power hungry skimmer, and requires alot of maintenance to keep it running at peak performance.
These are pics of my MRC3 recirc dual beckett skimmer......More skimming power, than the ASM, but not quite efficient as the 2 needlewheels and more maintenance.




 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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Here's why it has raw skimming power over the needlewheel, but not very efficient electrically. The big, extra external pump needed to power the becketts.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by acrylic51
http:///forum/post/3278034
Here's why it has raw skimming power over the needlewheel, but not very efficient electrically. The big, extra external pump needed to power the becketts.
HOLY COWWWWWWWWWWWW......I bought the sump set up that I have now for it's all in one capabilities....I SUCK AT DIY.....I like PLUG AND PLAY...

I'm soooo tired of tweaking stuff....lol....I'm not in a position to buy a large priced item right now..BUTTTTT...that's why I thought I would start looking around
I soooooo wish there was someone close to me that would be willing to come here...look at what I have....and hook me up....know what I mean.............I am so tired of buying stuff only to find out it's not adequate....
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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I like to play with stuff....that's my problem
..not saying to junk or discard anything you have, but 1 of the problems with an all in 1 setup at times, is that over the course of time, these items don't meet the changing demands we need. Also alot of times I think the manufacturers don't have a "real clue" from a hobbyist perspective.
I know you've stressed several times of space constraints with skimmer etc.....Have you thought about either building a new sump, or possibly altering what you have??? It's obvious the first baffle is high for the skimmer, but it might be possible to cut that existing baffle down to accomodate a new skimmer and have it sitting at the correct water height without having to block it up, giving you the needed head room up top to get the collection cup off? Another option would be to go with an external skimmer, but that creates another set of headaches......You could also drill the collection cup for a remote drain line and drain the cup collection into a separate container, but you would still have to be able to get the lid off and wipe the neck of the skimmer down from time to time.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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HAHAHHAHAHA...My head is spinning from all that......I don't even know what a baffle is ...LOL....
Building a new sump!!!!!!!!!!!AHHHHHHHHHH....NO, I honestly have not thought of that.....surely there is something I can do with this one...:(
OH...I HATE playing with stuff....gRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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A baffle is what separates the compartments in your sump or basically sets the water height, which is dictated by the height of the panel dividing the compartments in the sump. A really good site to explain sumps is melevsreef. A really informative site, which everyone should check out at some point. There might be something that can be done or altered with your sump. It just gets hard if not tricky trying to cut down baffles already in place in the sump, because of the tools that might be used and the vibration and such put upon the sump, might compromise the integrity of the sump itself. That's where the suggestion came up for a new sump........Check out Melevs site and read his sump section........
 
meowzer

meowzer

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So a baffle is kinda like the divider wall???? HMMMM I think there is an adjustment on that skimmer wall....I will have to look into it afer margaritaville ends

HAHA.....what I should say is when my husband is home....he is working nights this weekend, and I am on my own :( He really helps me a lot with this stuff (SHHHHH don't tell him) LOL....Seriously though, If not for him I would probably get rid of the 225G....and get a 100G or something that I could reach into
 
2quills

2quills

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Is your hubby fairly handy?...perhaps you could get him to drill some holes in the baffle to lower the water line if taking it out and cutting it isn't an option. I think I remember seeing a pic of your sump...it was acrylic was it not? Would probably be alot easier and at the same time could still work.
What are your thoughts on that, Shawn?
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by 2Quills
http:///forum/post/3278069
Is your hubby fairly handy?...perhaps you could get him to drill some holes in the baffle to lower the water line if taking it out and cutting it isn't an option. I think I remember seeing a pic of your sump...it was acrylic was it not? Would probably be alot easier and at the same time could still work.
What are your thoughts on that, Shawn?
On the protein skimmer side there is an adjustable ....piece....I think I can lower the water level 2" by removing that piece..That would make it 14"
YES..it is acrylic, and yeah, he's handy if I need him to be LOL.....
 
2quills

2quills

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Well...drilling could be an option but you might lose the function of your drip tray in order to do it, but you're not really using bio media right now anyway. And if you were to drill then this would best be done using a rotary tool with a carbide or diamond coated bit as apposed to using a drill with a standard bit which could cause the acrylic to crack.
I say keep looking for now...if you don't have the room inside the sump then maybe you can find a descent external skimmer that you could fit under the stand.
 
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