Marinerock Skimmer ?

jumpfrog

Active Member
Marinerock, thanks for the invite on solving a skimmer problem.
Installed by new nautilus te yesterday. Having serious bubble problems. As in returning to the sump and therefore, into the tank.
Any thoughts?
If prefered my email address is below.
TIA
 

marinerock

Member
HI JUMP...
OK....NOT A BIG PROBLEM AT ALL....JUST DO THIS AND LET ME
KNOW IF IT SOLVES YOUR PROBLEM....
THE SPONGE ON THE TUBE THAT RETURNS WATER INTO THE SUMP....MOVE THAT SPONGE SO THAT HALF OF IT IS SUBMERGED IN THE SUMP WATER....
THE OTHER THING ..... WHEN YOU ADJUST THE TUBE THAT THE SPONGE IS ATTACHED TO...THIS ADJUSTS THE WATER LEVEL IN THE COLUMN...I FOUND THAT IF YOU ADJUST IT TO MAYBE 1/2"
BELOW THE BLACK COLLAR...SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE WATER LINE....IT WILL REMOVE THE FILTHIEST GUNK FROM
THE WATER WITHOUT FILLING UP THE CUP WITH JUST SO SO DIRTY WATER....ADJUST THIS TUBE FIRST THEN ADJUST THE SPONGE THE WAY I STATED ABOVE AND YOU WILL BE SET....
IF YOU NEED MORE HELP...JUST LET ME KNOW.....
LET ME KNOW HOW IT WORKED OUT....
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR NEW SKIMMER....
REGARDS....
MARINEROCK
 

jumpfrog

Active Member
MARINEROCK:
Hey, hadn't forgot about you. New Years kinda buzy. Here's a pic. I don't seem to have any "new" bubbles in the tank. Still seeing some in the tank though. From looking at the pic does it look like it adjusted about right?
 

marinerock

Member
HEY JUMP...
HAPPY NEW YEAR....
FROM WHAT I CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE....YOU HAVE TO LOWER
THE SPONGE SO THAT HALF OF IT IS SUBMERGED IN THE WATER OF THE SUMP.....YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST 6 INCHES OF THE CLEAR TUBE THAT THE WATER COMES OUT OF SHOWING ABOVE THE SPONGE.... THEN YOU WILL BE GOOD TO GO...
NEXT....RAISE THE WATER LEVEL SOME MORE IN THE COLUMN,
DO THIS BY RAISING THE TUBE THAT THE SPONGE IS ON OR THE ONE THAT SLIDES INTO THE OTHER ONE......RAISE IT TO ABOUT IN BETWEEN WHERE IT IS NOW AND THE BOTTOM OF THE BLACK COLLAR...LIKE A HALF INCH BELOW THE BOTTOM OF THE BLACK COLLAR....
ALSO, ?....IS YOUR RETURN PUMP IN THE SUMP OR OUT?
IF ITS IN THE SUMP, I WILL TELL YOU HOW TO SOLVE THE OTHER
BUBBLE PROBLEM WHICH IS PROBABLY COMING FROM THAT
RETURN PUMP....
REGARDS...
MARINEROCK
 

jumpfrog

Active Member
Rock, you're on top of it man. Thanks
Yes, my return pump is in the sump next to the skimmer. A tight fit to be sure. Running a mag 7 on the skimmer and a mag 12 for the return.
I actually added another sponge to the output tube hoping to control some bubbles. The original sponge is about a 1/2" below the water line. Should I take off the "extra" sponge?
Also, you're saying I should raise the level inside the skimmer up a bit?
Thanks in advance. You're a big help. The plumbing part of this hobby is what's kicking my a$% the worst.
 

marinerock

Member
HEY JUMP....
NO PROBLEM...GLAD TO HELP YA OUT....
FIRST...RAISE THE WATER LEVEL IN THE LARGE COLUMN TILL ITS
ABOUT 1/2 INCH UNDER THE BOTTOM OF THE BLACK COLLAR...
YOU SHOULD SEE THE WATER LINE JUST LOOKING AT THE COLUMN....
NEXT....
YES, REMOVE THE EXTRA SPONGE THAT YOU PUT ON THE
OUTPUT TUBE......SLIDE THE ORIGINAL LONG ROUND SPONGE
DOWN THE TUBE TILL HALF OF THE SPONGE IS UNDER WATER....
NEXT...I THINK THE PROBLEM YOU ARE ALSO HAVING IS THAT
YOUR MAG-DRIVE 12 RETURN PUMP MAY NOT BE SUBMERGED ENOUGH AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THE PUMP IS SUCKING THE WATER FROM THE TOP OF THE SUMP AND BRINGING AIR BUBBLES IN WITH IT....NOW LISTEN...THE WAY TO DO THIS SO THAT IN CASE OF A POWER OUTAGE YOU DO NOT HAVE A FLOOD IN YOUR HOME IS.....
1..TURN OFF ALL THE POWER IN THE TANK...EVERYTHING
2...SEE HOW HIGH YOUR SUMP FILLS UP
3...FILL UP THE SUMP TILL ITS ABOUT 2" FROM THE TOP
4...TURN ON EVERYTHING
5...TAKE A MARKER AND PUT A MARK AT THE WATER LINE ON THE
OUTSIDE OF THE SUMP...NOW YOU WILL KNOW THE HIGHEST
LEVEL IN THE SUMP THAT YOU CAN FILL IT WITHOUT THE
SUMP OVERFLOWING IN CASE OF A POWER OUTAGE.....
NOW SEE IF YOUR TANK IS STILL HAVING SMALL BUBBLES RETUNING TO IT....IF NOT...THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE BUBBLES RETURNING TO THE TANK....TAKE A MARKER AND PUT A MARK ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE SUMP WHERE THE WATER LEVEL IS AND
YOU WILL NOW KNOW THAT WHEN THE WATER LEVEL GETS TO
THAT POINT...YOU WILL HAVE TO TOP-OFF.....YOU CAN MARK THE TWO SPOTS....HIGHEST AND LOWEST WATER LEVEL.....
HOPE THIS HELPS...
REGARDS...
MARINEROCK
 

marinerock

Member
HEY JUMP....
I JUST WROTE ALL THIS AND THEN WAS CHECKING THE OTHER BOARDS AND SAW YOUR POST ABOUT THE PUMP SIZE....
I HAVE THE SAME TANK WITH A MAG-DRIVE #18 FOR A RETURN AND ITS WIDE OPEN....I HAVE A SLS 200 GAL WET/DRY....
FORGET ABOUT THAT STICKER FOR WATER LEVEL...READ ABOVE POST AND MAKE YOUR OWN LEVELS...
WHAT SIZE IS YOUR WET/DRY ?
WE WILL SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER...
REGARDS...
MARINEROCK
 

jumpfrog

Active Member
MARINEROCK. Great stuff. I'll give that a try in the morning.
1. Remove extra sponge
2. Shut down and determine max water level
3. Add water to make sure I'm not sucking air
(hopefully that will allow me to throttle up my pump to full speed too)
The sump I bought from this site. Pic attached. Rated for 200 gallons.
Let me play with it and I'll check in with tomorrow and let you know how it goes.
 

marinerock

Member
HEY JUMP.....
NICE WET/DRY.....PULL OUT THE WHITE SPONGE AND THE WALL IF ITS REMOVEABLE(IT SHOULD BE)...AND YOU WILL HAVE MORE ROOM....YOU DONT NEED THE SPONGE IN THERE
ANYWAY....NITRATE MAGNET...LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE THE SAME SYSTEMS GOIN....I HAVE THE MD#18 AND A SEALIFE SYSTEMS 200 GAL. WET/DRY AND HAVE THE M/D RUNNING AT OPEN TROTTLE ....
WILL GET YOURS GOING GOOD ALSO....
REGARDS....
MARINEROCK
 

jumpfrog

Active Member
ROCK, everything lookin' good. The pump issue is definitely taken care of. Added water to the sump, duh!
I've got to wait for the dust to settle, literally....added pump power done blew up a storm....:rolleyes: to see how things are going with the skimmer.
Hopefully tomorrow I can get it all in sync.
Thanks again for your help.
Where in Fl are you?
 

marinerock

Member
HEY JUMP....
NO PROBLEM....GLAD TO HELP.....
I GUESS YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY IT BLEW UP A STORM...MEANS THAT THE OPEN PUMP BLEW THE SAND ALL OVER THE PLACE....
SOLUTION TO THAT PROBLEM...
LOOKIN AT YOUR TANK FROM THE FRONT....
THE RETURN ON THE LEFT...AIM IT TO THE DEAD CENTER OF THE FRONT GLASS....
THE RETURN ON THE RIGHT...AIM IT TO THE LEFT ALMOST BUT A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE ACTUAL RETURN PIPE ON THE LEFT
THAT SHOULD SOLVE BLOWING THE SAND ALL OVER...YOU WILL HAVE TO ADJUST IT ACCORDINGLY BUT THAT SHOULD JUST ABOUT DO IT SO IT WONT EVEN BLOW A LITTLE HOLE IN THE SAND...
REGARDS...
MARINEROCK
 

jumpfrog

Active Member
ROCK. Finally got most of the sand settled. I just raised the outflow tube a hair a few minutes ago. I think we got it under control. Posted a group shot a few minutes ago. The water still isn't crystal but I figure it'll be a few weeks. Probably still have some bacterial and algea blooms to contend with. Overall, I'm satisfied.
Again, many thanks for your help. This is my first time with a sump/skimmer set up like this so I really had no clue.
How are things going with your 125?
 

marinerock

Member
HEY JUMP....
DID YOU READ THE POST BEFORE THE LAST ONE...I TRIED EVERYTHING AND SOMEONE TOLD ME HOW TO POINT THE RETURNS IN THE TANK AND IT WORKED....DONT KNOW IF YOU TRIED IT OR NOT....ANYHOW...YOUR WATER LOOKS CRYSTAL CLEAR FROM THE PHOTO BUT IF ITS NOT...YOULL SEE A BIG
DIFFERENCE IN A WEEK OR SO...JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN
SEE THE WATER LINE IN THE COLUMN CAUSE IF IT GOES ANY HIGHER, YOULL SEE IT WILL JUST FILL THE CUP WITH SO-SO DIRTY WATER AND NOT THE REAL GUNKY STUFF...
EVERYTHING IS COOL WITH MY TANK...HOPEFULLY IT STAYS THAT WAY....
YOUR TANK LOOKS NICE....FISH LOOK GREAT...REALLY COOL EEL YOU HAVE THERE....GREEN MORAY?
REGARDS...
MARINEROCK
 

jumpfrog

Active Member
ROCK. Thanks for the advice. I did move my returns as you suggested. Made a difference. I don't think any new sand is being stirred up.
The eel is a wolf eel.
Actually not a moray. It's a dottyback. Really cool fish. Always hungry.
Cheers
 

marinerock

Member
HEY JUMP....
GLAD TO HEAR ALL IS WELL....IF YA NEED ANYTHING...LET ME KNOW....
THAT EEL IS REALLY COOL....AND THAT NEW WRASSE IS SUPER GORGEOUS....LIKE TO GET ONE OF THOSE...WILL BE LOOKIN FOR ONE....MY SON SAID THAT THE WOLF EEL STAYS RELATIVELY SMALL AS COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHERS...WE HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE IN PERSON THOUGH...
REGARDS....
MARINEROCK
 

jumpfrog

Active Member
ROCK; here's a better look at him. My wife named him Earnest cuz he looks kinda clueless with his underbite:D
 

marinerock

Member
HEY JUMP....
WHAT DO YOU FEED HIM ? IS HE RELATIVELY EASY TO CARE FOR AND DO YOU HAVE TO SEAL THE TOP OF THE TANK REAL WELL SO HE DOESNT ESCAPE ? AND WILL HE EAT GREEN CHROMIS? CAUSE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THEM... WIFE SAYS NO TO GETTING AN EEL , BUT WE'LL SEE...
REGARDS,
MR
 
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