thanks for the info on 8 inch above water i messrd it and it looks like i got like 8 inches total but i have a brother inlaw that is a finish carpenter and has tools the way my hood is i can add another board and revamp it i want to do it right this time so i guess its mh cause i dont want to limit myself and throw good money away and have to upgrade in the future i am lookin at my new hobbie in the long term thanks for the help