Milky tank after putting in Orange Spot gobies

anonome

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Ok Guys and Gals, I have a question....after putting in my newly quarantined orange spot sifting gobies in the main tank, 125g reef, it almost looked like someone poured milk into the tank. They instantly started to sift the sand, which is why I got them. However, after every mouthful white milky powdery substance would come up. What is this? Silicates from the sand or calcium? I would think that if it was dietreus it would be brown? Maybe I'm wrong. Please help. I have never owned a sand sifter before. The tank is 12 1/2 months old. Thanks!
 

anonome

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I know that the water is suppose to be a mess for about a week or so, the gobies are doing a wonderful job on turning the sand. I was just curious about what the white powder was that was being released into the tank. Any ideas? I know that the sand I used was caribsea brand. Half live, half aragonite. Could the milky appearance be the aragonite? Inquiring minds want to know..........the mind is a terrible thing to waste!!!
 

fishstix4u

Member
to be honest i dont think one little fish can do what i am going through.. but i may be wrong.. please let me konw what you find out and ill do the same
 

fishstix4u

Member
there is no way this is from this fish... are you serious???? any one else have this happeneing.. if you know what lengths i have gone through over this... wow!
 

anonome

Active Member
Originally Posted by fatboyjoe
I returned my goby to the lfs after a week of cloudy water. good luck catching it.
I don't want to return them, you should see how beautiful the sand looks. :cheer: I was just wondering what the cloudyness is made of. I have a friend that has one and it took about a week of this mess to settle down.
WHAT IS THE MILKYNESS MADE OF??????
When you first set up your tank it looks like this.....Dust is expected in the beginning, but after a year??
 

rsd

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Let the gobie do what it does best.
Sift.
Here's the scoop. your sand is made up of many sizes... the big stuff you can see, the small stuff you can feel, and the smaller "dust" stuff. The dust is made up of your sand as it breaks down, fish/coral waste, calcium, salt, minerals, and everything else that can turn into dust.
Most tanks do not have enough of a filtration system/water turn over/ storm surges/ etc. to keep this stuff on the move so that it is "disposed" of.
Enter a sifter gobie.
He is going to turn over every square inch of your sand bed... and doing so he is throwing sand/dust into the water column like a 5 year-old in a sand box. He is going to make one heck-of-a mess untill every bit of "dust" is processed/filtered out or digested.
Solution:
1: Run a charcoal filter (I use chemi-pure) for a month... this will help absorb small particles that he throws into the water column.
2: Let the gobie feed... he is removing days/months/years of detritus build up.
3: Use a turkey baster and GENTLY dust your hard corals (cup coral, brain, blue ridge, etc)... be VERY VERY gently with soft corals.
4: More water flow...
If you choose not to have a gobie:
1: create a storm in your tank 4-6 times a year. Use a power head and stirr up your sand bed... 1 section at a time. (run a filter in your system to remove the detritus).
2: Add other sifters. Nassarius Snails, starfish, cucumbers, crabs, clams, etc... and LOTS of them.
3: LOTS and LOTS of water movement... the sand in the ocean doesn't just sit there... neither should yours.
4: Realize this doesn't work that well, buy a gobie, and live with the dust for the 1st month or so...knowing the longr it takes to clear... the dirtier your tank was.
I lost my gobie 2 months ago after 4 years... my sand looked horrible in 6 weeks... I just bought a mated pair and they are keeping my 200 spotless... after 3 days of fog.
They are doing a great service for you... keep them happy and let the dust fly!
Good luck.
 

anonome

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RSD.....THANK YOU!!! This totally makes sense. I just thought that after a year the dust would magically disappear.
They are a mated pair, so cute together, but boy, do they make a mess. But one observation....my corals have never looked so good. They obviously like the nutrients that are being stirred up.
Fred and Ethel can keep on digging!!! Honestly my sand has never looked so good. And fluffy looking too. Thanks again for the good explanation.
 

fishstix4u

Member
rsd as stated THANK YOU.... but i would like to trouble you more on this topic if thats ok. my goby has one spot it sits in all day.. i dont see it actually siting anything up and eats plenty of food at feeding time? is it good to be feeding him.. and i agree with the nassurius snails.. i have over 90 of them.. i ordered 50 and 88 of them came... they where shipped to my door for a grand total of 13.99 I love E**Y!!! but up until that little guy came in my sand bed would be covered in redslime every morning by 11 am. is he the reason that stopped cause it was getting anoying stirring the sand 4 times a day!
 

rsd

Member
How long have you had him?
My gobies, for the first couple weeks... will sit in one area for a long time... but they do venture out.
If your sand looks good... I'd say your ok.
Your goby may be over fed... not sure. But on that same note... if it works don't change it. Sifter/sleeper gobies are notoriously hard to keep fed well enough to survive in a tank. They require lots of food that you and I can't see. If your gobie is eating food that you provide and maintains a rather "plump" appearance... celebrate. He should live a long time.
As for the red slime... a sifting gobie will help because it never gets a solid foot hold... however I don't believe the gobie was the ultimate cure.
Red slime forms due to an abundance of certain minerals/food/water conditions.
You probably had something in your tank (or a combination of things) that created the ideal place/time for red slime to grow:
1: Lack of water movement
2: high cilicates (not sure the source)
3: high nutrients (something could have died... I find dying sponges to start spikes for me... even if it is those little que tip ones... when enough go at once)
4: organic breakdown in the sand (lack of sand stirring).
Think of the beach... think of the 10's of 1,000's of gallons that crash into the shore each minute. That motion is carried down well below where corals live. That is the water motion of the ocean. Are you re-creating it?
I don't have enough pumps in my tank to do it either... but that is the source for a lot of sedentary/slime algeas and symptoms in our tanks.
 
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