More new fishies in my 58!

[laxplaya]

yo... you people need to chill out... All my fish are fine. I just got a scooter blenny and a diamond goby and another skunk shrimp, a gorgonian, and another coral. All my fish are fine. Everything you people know is a conspiracy from the government and you have all been victimized. I was at a LFS and they had 8 yellow tangs in a 2 foot wide by 4 feet tall. And 3 tanks with the same as above right next to it. And the tangs were in a Not for sale tank. So they yellow tangs dont fight each other and they dont need a 6 foot long tank. The place where it is at is called "House of Fins" and is one of the best fish stores in the country. They get thousands of fish in per week and are sold out in 6 days. They have loads of fish in the same tank that you people say "dont mix". My four LFS say 1 fish per 5 gallons. These LFS are phenomenal. One of them is actually owned by the same people of House of Fins. These people aree all pros and they definitely know what they are doing. IMO you people are just blind sided by all thius false knowledge.

 

[m0nk]

Originally Posted by LAXplaya
yo... you people need to chill out... All my fish are fine. I just got a scooter blenny and a diamond goby and another skunk shrimp, a gorgonian, and another coral. All my fish are fine. Everything you people know is a conspiracy from the government and you have all been victimized. I was at a LFS and they had 8 yellow tangs in a 2 foot wide by 4 feet tall. And 3 tanks with the same as above right next to it. And the tangs were in a Not for sale tank. So they yellow tangs dont fight each other and they dont need a 6 foot long tank. The place where it is at is called "House of Fins" and is one of the best fish stores in the country. They get thousands of fish in per week and are sold out in 6 days. They have loads of fish in the same tank that you people say "dont mix". My four LFS say 1 fish per 5 gallons. These LFS are phenomenal. One of them is actually owned by the same people of House of Fins. These people aree all pros and they definitely know what they are doing. IMO you people are just blind sided by all thius false knowledge.
The first thing you need to realize is that everyone here is trying to HELP you from their own experience, and the years of experience gathered by numerous peers. Your LFS is only going to try and make money off of you so you can't trust what they say. Also, seeing tangs in a small tank that says "Not For Sale" likely means you saw them doing some QT, which you should always do for tangs since they're more susceptible to ich than many other fish in the hobby. Most LFS will keep fish in a tank that's too small for them to live in long term only because they sell them quickly, therefore they don't need to invest in the large spaces that many of the fish will require long term. Just because the LFS uses X gallon tank for tangs doesn't mean you should. Having loads of fish that "don't mix" in a tank also is no indicator of something you could be doing because, again, they're planning on selling those fish quickly and it's not for a long term.
At any rate, if you don't heed the advice you've been given, when you have a problem (and at this rate, it's not "if" you'll have a problem, but "when"), they may not want to help you. Again, I'm also trying to help you, but you obviously don't want it so I will not help any further. Good luck, and when your fish start dying I will be sorry for them.

 

[cvetnich]

Well hell I think you should add a coral banded shark in there while your at it!

 

[laxplaya]

Actually it didnt say not for sale. It was in the second building across the street which is the plce where you can buy tank and look at fish and rockwork for ideas. It is not Qt. The QT tanks are where you can buy the fish. They have been in that tank for a real long time.

 

[kanicky]

Originally Posted by LAXplaya
yo... you people need to chill out...

Originally Posted by LAXplaya
All my fish are fine.
Really? You had a chat with them, did you?

Originally Posted by LAXplaya
I just got a scooter blenny and a diamond goby and another skunk shrimp, a gorgonian, and another coral.
So that's what? 11 fish in a 58 gallon tank? If your "logic" of one fish per five gallons of water is "correct," then that should be 55 gallons, right? However, take away water mass because of the LR, LS and numerous corals you have, and it's definitely under 50. You're overstocked by your own logic.
Originally Posted by LAXplaya
All my fish are fine.
Repetition, much?
Originally Posted by LAXplaya
Everything you people know is a conspiracy from the government and you have all been victimized.
This coming from a boy who listens to the employees at the LFS who "really do know everything."

Originally Posted by LAXplaya
I was at a LFS and they had 8 yellow tangs in a 2 foot wide by 4 feet tall. And 3 tanks with the same as above right next to it. And the tangs were in a Not for sale tank. So they yellow tangs dont fight each other and they dont need a 6 foot long tank.
As someone has already pointed out, they over-crowd their tanks because they know they will sell those fish quickly. I went to a sale at my LFS and they had four Yellow Tangs in a 55 gallon, but all were gone within an hour and a half.

Originally Posted by LAXplaya
The place where it is at is called "House of Fins" and is one of the best fish stores in the country. They get thousands of fish in per week and are sold out in 6 days.
This should tell you something: They sell their stock quickly, so they don't have to keep them in appropriate sized tanks...
Originally Posted by LAXplaya
They have loads of fish in the same tank that you people say "dont mix".
Read above.
Originally Posted by LAXplaya
My four LFS say 1 fish per 5 gallons.
They're trying to make a sale. I have two LFS that won't sell me something if they know I don't have the capacity. Those are the kind of LFS' I trust.
Originally Posted by LAXplaya
These LFS are phenomenal.
Not if they allowed you to put eleven fish in a 58 gallon tank; especially fish that belong in a much larger tank.
Originally Posted by LAXplaya
One of them is actually owned by the same people of House of Fins.
And...?
Originally Posted by LAXplaya
These people aree all pros and they definitely know what they are doing.
Why? Because you say or think they're pro's? Give me a break

Originally Posted by LAXplaya
IMO you people are just blind sided by all thius false knowledge.
Ah, ignorance is bliss, isn't it? rder="0" alt="" title="brickwall" class="inlineimg" />

 

[azaintcold]

Originally Posted by LAXplaya
My four LFS say 1 fish per 5 gallons.

I think you may have misunderstood what they were trying to say. The general saying when it comes to fish per gallon, which is usually not accurate anyways, is:
For small to medium fish, the rule is 2" of fish for every 10 gallons.
For medium to large bodied fish, the rule is 1" of fish for every 10 gallons.
this refers to the full grown size of the fish. For instance the hippo tang would be considered an 8-12 inch fish. Based on what you have in the tank, you have overshot this number a while back. Good luck.
P.S. I have a 150 gallon, and I intend on housing a powder blue tang, a purple tang, 2 clowns, a royal gramma, and a gobie. Thats the full fish list.

 

[renogaw]

I hate to say it, but until his tank crashes, there will be no lesson learned. it is too bad, cause daddy will have the money to go buy more.

 

[rubberduck]

Originally Posted by LAXplaya
yo... you people need to chill out... All my fish are fine. I just got a scooter blenny and a diamond goby and another skunk shrimp, a gorgonian, and another coral. All my fish are fine. Everything you people know is a conspiracy from the government and you have all been victimized. I was at a LFS and they had 8 yellow tangs in a 2 foot wide by 4 feet tall. And 3 tanks with the same as above right next to it. And the tangs were in a Not for sale tank. So they yellow tangs dont fight each other and they dont need a 6 foot long tank. The place where it is at is called "House of Fins" and is one of the best fish stores in the country. They get thousands of fish in per week and are sold out in 6 days. They have loads of fish in the same tank that you people say "dont mix". My four LFS say 1 fish per 5 gallons. These LFS are phenomenal. One of them is actually owned by the same people of House of Fins. These people aree all pros and they definitely know what they are doing. IMO you people are just blind sided by all thius false knowledge.
i have been in the hobby for 4 years and thats probly less than alot of ppl on this forum and ur trying to tell us whats right, who has something to gain, ur lfs? or us. only thing we do is help u. ur an idiot for telling other ppl whats right when you cant even understand a sales pitch. ppl like u really push my buttons and i dont get mad often. hope u one day realize your ignorance.

 

[brandon7491]

wow u all need to serously chill and stop flamming this kid. let him do what he wants. also u guys are way to liberal and it is quite sad. i no u say ur trying to help but ur alls tone is kinda to the extreme so chilll

 

[alix]

Originally Posted by brandon7491
wow u all need to serously chill and stop flamming this kid. let him do what he wants. also u guys are way to liberal and it is quite sad. i no u say ur trying to help but ur alls tone is kinda to the extreme so chilll
look this kid has repeadedly posted threads about how awesome all his fish are and then a week lated you see "help me my fish are dying" threads. he refuses to take anyones advice, and as long as his daddy keeps buying more fish, he doesnt seem to care what dies.
i agree, to some extent, that everyone should be able to do their own thing and experiment, but if someone was continuously starving puppies and making them live in shoeboxes and trashbags, would you still tell everyone to "let him do what he wants"?

 

[brandon7491]

puppies and fish are two totally diffrent things man. i mean in all honesty there just fish. now i do c where u guys are getting mad at him and yes his tank is over stocked but comon u guys are acting a litttle bit to the extreme. n e ways LAXplaya all they are trying to say is that you are over stocking your tank way way to much and the solution is to just stop buying fish and start buying corals thats all.

 

[puffer32]

He has 13 fish in the tank now, he just added a goby and scooter fish. I wonder if his wonderful lfs told him scooters need pods to survive since they know everything, why didn't they know that????

Of course they probably knew it, but to make a sale, these "experts" sold him one anyway

I think we should all just keep our comments to ourselves from now on, cause i think this kid enjoys getting unfaverable comments or he would just stop posting, he knows EXACTLY what we are going to say when he posts about getting another fish, so he must get a kick out of it, I say we just ignore him. If he is buying fish to prove us wrong, its not fair to the fish he will end up killing. Maybe he will stop if he doesn't get a reaction from us any more

And afew fish might not become victims. Just a thought.

 

[puffer32]

Originally Posted by brandon7491
puppies and fish are two totally diffrent things man. i mean in all honesty there just fish. now i do c where u guys are getting mad at him and yes his tank is over stocked but comon u guys are acting a litttle bit to the extreme. n e ways LAXplaya all they are trying to say is that you are over stocking your tank way way to much and the solution is to just stop buying fish and start buying corals thats all.
Fish have feelings to, Of course puppies are different, but no need to let any living, breathing animal suffer because of selfish ignorance is there?

 

[jamparty]

just let him experience a wipe out...
best lessons in life are learned through experience afterall.
and if anything, maybe having a full tank wipeout will open his father's eyes and restrict his loose quick spending.

 

[laxplaya]

Originally Posted by brandon7491
wow u all need to serously chill and stop flamming this kid. let him do what he wants. also u guys are way to liberal and it is quite sad. i no u say ur trying to help but ur alls tone is kinda to the extreme so chilll
liberal... nice word.

 

[laxplaya]

Originally Posted by puffer32
Fish have feelings to, Of course puppies are different, but no need to let any living, breathing animal suffer because of selfish ignorance is there?
atleast i dont freeze my poor pets in 40 degree water. As long as i dont make stupid @$$ mistakes like you, and probably a lot of people do, i will be fine.

 

[laxplaya]

Originally Posted by JamParty
just let him experience a wipe out...
best lessons in life are learned through experience afterall.
and if anything, maybe having a full tank wipeout will open his father's eyes and restrict his loose quick spending.

it kind of ironic that you said my dad will open his eyes... he has macular degeneration of the retna and is legally blind in his right eye. Kind of ironic

 

[puffer32]

Originally Posted by LAXplaya
atleast i dont freeze my poor pets in 40 degree water. As long as i dont make stupid @$$ mistakes like you, and probably a lot of people do, i will be fine.
At least i do not kill my pets on purpose

I would be the first to stand behind you and say you made a newbie mistake IF you were trying to right a wrong, but no, you just are acting like a spoiled brat out for self gratification, look at me, i can do what i want and have a pretty tank, none of you can do 13 fish in a tank and get away with it

Or else you just like controversey. Oh let me see what i can put in my tank to rile these people up.
nuff said, i am done with you, could care less what you think

 

[laxplaya]

Originally Posted by puffer32
He has 13 fish in the tank now, he just added a goby and scooter fish. I wonder if his wonderful lfs told him scooters need pods to survive since they know everything, why didn't they know that????

Of course they probably knew it, but to make a sale, these "experts" sold him one anyway

lol... the scooter doesnt eat just pods... he was eatin flake and mysis shrimp this morning. And i bough tthe goby and red scooter blenny from SWF.com. Maybe you should know all the facts before you make ASSumptions!

 

[puffer32]

Originally Posted by LAXplaya
it kind of ironic that you said my dad will open his eyes... he has macular degeneration of the retna and is legally blind in his right eye. Kind of ironic
Sorry about your dad, it was a figure of speech as you know, this poster had no way of knowing, but you already knew that.........