Morish Idol vs. Heniochus Butterfly
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yeffre kix
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I had three henni's in my 300 gal tank and have mixed reviews. They are beautiful fish with tons of personality and very good eaters but can cause problems with corals. Only one of mine bothered anything but he destroyed my polyps and zoos in short order.
Forget the Morish Idol!
Forget the Morish Idol!
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jdragunas
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The b&w heniochus, aka bannerfish, is not reef compatible. They will nip at corals, just like any other butterfly. However, this is not an aggressive fish, it's actually pretty peaceful, and they have tons of personality. i absolutely adore mine!!! My clown actually chases him around... here's more info:
Minimum Tank Size: 50 gallons
Care Level: Easy
Tank Conditions: 72-78°F; sg 1.020-1.025; pH 8.1-8.4; dKH 8-12 (i kept mine in 82 degree water, so i don't think the temp condition is accurate)
Max. Size In Aquarium: Up to 10"
Color Form: Black, Yellow, White
Temperament: Peaceful
Reef Compatible: No
Diet: Omnivore
Origin: Fiji, Tahiti, Hawaii
Family: Chaetodontidae
The Heniochus Black and White Butterflyfish, also known as Longfin Bannerfish, has a very elongated white dorsal filament. It has a base color of white with two wide black stripes. The soft dorsal and caudal fins are yellow, and there are black marks above the eyes. Members of the Heniochus genera are often called Bannerfish instead of Butterflyfish.
The Heniochus Black and White Butterflyfish may reside in a 50 gallon or larger aquarium with other peaceful fish and others of the same species, if all were introduced into the tank at the same time. When swimming, the elongated white dorsal filament moves like a banner in the wind.
It prefers a diet of small meaty foods and herbivore preparations.
Minimum Tank Size: 50 gallons
Care Level: Easy
Tank Conditions: 72-78°F; sg 1.020-1.025; pH 8.1-8.4; dKH 8-12 (i kept mine in 82 degree water, so i don't think the temp condition is accurate)
Max. Size In Aquarium: Up to 10"
Color Form: Black, Yellow, White
Temperament: Peaceful
Reef Compatible: No
Diet: Omnivore
Origin: Fiji, Tahiti, Hawaii
Family: Chaetodontidae
The Heniochus Black and White Butterflyfish, also known as Longfin Bannerfish, has a very elongated white dorsal filament. It has a base color of white with two wide black stripes. The soft dorsal and caudal fins are yellow, and there are black marks above the eyes. Members of the Heniochus genera are often called Bannerfish instead of Butterflyfish.
The Heniochus Black and White Butterflyfish may reside in a 50 gallon or larger aquarium with other peaceful fish and others of the same species, if all were introduced into the tank at the same time. When swimming, the elongated white dorsal filament moves like a banner in the wind.
It prefers a diet of small meaty foods and herbivore preparations.
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jdragunas
Guest
and DON'T get an idol!
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jdragunas
Guest
all butterflies are not good with corals. IMO, it's not worth the trouble. If you do get one, and he does start picking on your corals, you're going to have a hell of a time getting him out of the tank. They're fast little buggers!
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fishlovr
Guest
If you can locate a "Schooling Bannerfish" ( Heniochus diphreutes ) they are reefsafe
HTH
Janey
HTHJaney
clown boy
Active Member
Originally Posted by fishlovr
If you can locate a "Schooling Bannerfish" ( Heniochus diphreutes ) they are reefsafe HTH
Janey
Okay, I went and looked in another site, and it says that they are not reef safe. Do you know this from research, or is this from your own experience?
If you can locate a "Schooling Bannerfish" ( Heniochus diphreutes ) they are reefsafe
HTHJaney
Okay, I went and looked in another site, and it says that they are not reef safe. Do you know this from research, or is this from your own experience?
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jdragunas
Guest
i had one along with some feather dusters, and he didn't pick at them, but that's different from having a reef with corals. This is what i found on them:
Minimum Tank Size: 50 gallons
Care Level: Easy
Tank Conditions: 72-78°F; sg 1.020-1.025; pH 8.1-8.4; dKH 8-12
Max. Size In Aquarium: Up to 10"
Color Form: Black, Yellow, White
Temperament: Peaceful
Reef Compatible: No
Diet: Omnivore
Compatibility: View Chart
Origin: Fiji, Tahiti, Hawaii
Family: Chaetodontidae
The Heniochus Black and White Butterflyfish, also known as Longfin Bannerfish, has a very elongated white dorsal filament. It has a base color of white with two wide black stripes. The soft dorsal and caudal fins are yellow, and there are black marks above the eyes. Members of the Heniochus genera are often called Bannerfish instead of Butterflyfish.
The Heniochus Black and White Butterflyfish may reside in a 50 gallon or larger aquarium with other peaceful fish and others of the same species, if all were introduced into the tank at the same time. When swimming, the elongated white dorsal filament moves like a banner in the wind.
It prefers a diet of small meaty foods and herbivore preparations.
i have another book at home that i can look up more information in. I'll check it out for you.
Minimum Tank Size: 50 gallons
Care Level: Easy
Tank Conditions: 72-78°F; sg 1.020-1.025; pH 8.1-8.4; dKH 8-12
Max. Size In Aquarium: Up to 10"
Color Form: Black, Yellow, White
Temperament: Peaceful
Reef Compatible: No
Diet: Omnivore
Compatibility: View Chart
Origin: Fiji, Tahiti, Hawaii
Family: Chaetodontidae
The Heniochus Black and White Butterflyfish, also known as Longfin Bannerfish, has a very elongated white dorsal filament. It has a base color of white with two wide black stripes. The soft dorsal and caudal fins are yellow, and there are black marks above the eyes. Members of the Heniochus genera are often called Bannerfish instead of Butterflyfish.
The Heniochus Black and White Butterflyfish may reside in a 50 gallon or larger aquarium with other peaceful fish and others of the same species, if all were introduced into the tank at the same time. When swimming, the elongated white dorsal filament moves like a banner in the wind.
It prefers a diet of small meaty foods and herbivore preparations.
i have another book at home that i can look up more information in. I'll check it out for you.
saltn00b
Active Member
Heniochus :
is one of the two butterfly fish that have ever been kept in a reef with some success. the Heniochus and the Copper Banded Butterflys CAN do well in a reef, but you need large amount of space, 135g is about bare minimum i would say, and great water quality, and then its really a matter of luck, probably 50% crap shoot that they wont nip certain corals. all other butterflys should not even be attempted. Butterflys have a taste for worms, so your feather dusters if you have any, will be decimated.
The Moorish Idol:
Exceptionally difficult fish to keep alive. Never ever recommended to anyone, and only the most expert and knowledgable should ever attempt to remove these beautiful fish from our oceans where they belong. they need 400+ gallon tank and their diet consists almost 100% of fresh, live Clam Mantles! so unless you have the sort of cash flow to supply Clams for food for this guy - as well as upkeep on a 500 gallon tank , forget about this guy, and go scuba diving in hawaii if you want to see em.
is one of the two butterfly fish that have ever been kept in a reef with some success. the Heniochus and the Copper Banded Butterflys CAN do well in a reef, but you need large amount of space, 135g is about bare minimum i would say, and great water quality, and then its really a matter of luck, probably 50% crap shoot that they wont nip certain corals. all other butterflys should not even be attempted. Butterflys have a taste for worms, so your feather dusters if you have any, will be decimated.
The Moorish Idol:
Exceptionally difficult fish to keep alive. Never ever recommended to anyone, and only the most expert and knowledgable should ever attempt to remove these beautiful fish from our oceans where they belong. they need 400+ gallon tank and their diet consists almost 100% of fresh, live Clam Mantles! so unless you have the sort of cash flow to supply Clams for food for this guy - as well as upkeep on a 500 gallon tank , forget about this guy, and go scuba diving in hawaii if you want to see em.
acrylic51
Active Member
Originally Posted by jdragunas
all butterflies are not good with corals. IMO, it's not worth the trouble. If you do get one, and he does start picking on your corals, you're going to have a hell of a time getting him out of the tank. They're fast little buggers!
Not totally true!!!!!!
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jdragunas
Guest
which part?