wilsonreef
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WOW...Anthropo....I bet your really a hoot at the I.C.U. ward at the local hospitals :hilarious
morrish idol
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firedog
Member
Originally Posted by alyssia
I personally find coach's responses to be very informative, not critical.
I found Coach's post to be informative also, but I felt that it was a little critical (probably since he quoted my post and I am taking it too personally
). The problem I have here is Anthropo's post, and that is the one that caused me to make that statement. That attitude is way too prevalent on these boards.
I personally find coach's responses to be very informative, not critical.
I found Coach's post to be informative also, but I felt that it was a little critical (probably since he quoted my post and I am taking it too personally
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surfinusa
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Originally Posted by phishface
dang. is this the agressive response forum? what do you think about the time frame of the clams in the water? that was the question, right? not "what do you think about keeping an idol?" talk about bite your head off. isnt this here to help ppl?
whoa how are they a bad hobbiest just cause they said something :notsure: you can have somebody very offended by that
dang. is this the agressive response forum? what do you think about the time frame of the clams in the water? that was the question, right? not "what do you think about keeping an idol?" talk about bite your head off. isnt this here to help ppl?
whoa how are they a bad hobbiest just cause they said something :notsure: you can have somebody very offended by that
shrimpdady
Member
My opinion is that this thread has lost any chance of becoming informative or helpful.
In case you haven't noticed, the person who started this thread has not posted again.
You folks probably scared him off.
I hope your happy with what you HAVEN'T accomplished here after so many replies.
Why don't you guys start a new thread in which you can argue to your hearts content.
My vote is that a moderator steps in and shuts this thread down.
In case you haven't noticed, the person who started this thread has not posted again.
You folks probably scared him off.
I hope your happy with what you HAVEN'T accomplished here after so many replies.
Why don't you guys start a new thread in which you can argue to your hearts content.
My vote is that a moderator steps in and shuts this thread down.
alyssia
Active Member
Originally Posted by ShrimpDady
My opinion is that this thread has lost any chance of becoming informative or helpful.
In case you haven't noticed, the person who started this thread has not posted again.
You folks probably scared him off.
I hope your happy with what you HAVEN'T accomplished here after so many replies.
Why don't you guys start a new thread in which you can argue to your hearts content.
My vote is that a moderator steps in and shuts this thread down.
I think you are correct.
My opinion is that this thread has lost any chance of becoming informative or helpful.
In case you haven't noticed, the person who started this thread has not posted again.
You folks probably scared him off.
I hope your happy with what you HAVEN'T accomplished here after so many replies.
Why don't you guys start a new thread in which you can argue to your hearts content.
My vote is that a moderator steps in and shuts this thread down.
I think you are correct.
batman1820
Member
i think you guys have scared away any new fish keepers that read this forum lol
Anyways, don't keep the clam in there for too long cuz they will rot and with a fish as sensitive as the moorish idol, you really want to keep the water condition as good as possible.
And yes the moorish idol is quite difficult to keep but it can be done. They DO require large tanks, but again, it can be done in smaller tanks. I have a very experienced friend who has 3 in a ~220 gallon that he has had for 2 years. He started out with five though, but still not bad. Don't know what his secret is though Sorry!
This is how he got them to eat substitute foods:
If you are lucky enough to get an individual that eats clams which you are, try adding small bits of frozen foods squished onto the clam. Over time they will try it out and hopefully will like it. Sounds simple enough? don't know if it works but thats how he did it. He also said that they like huge flakes of spirulina. They are more willing to chew bits from a giant peice then to eat little bits of flakes floating around even if they are the exact same thing. I once considered stocking my whole 385 with only moorish idols but never took the chance since i have to save a LOT of lunch money to buy something that might not survive
If your tank is big enough they are supposed to do much better in groups of 3-4. Good luck!!!
Anyways, don't keep the clam in there for too long cuz they will rot and with a fish as sensitive as the moorish idol, you really want to keep the water condition as good as possible.
And yes the moorish idol is quite difficult to keep but it can be done. They DO require large tanks, but again, it can be done in smaller tanks. I have a very experienced friend who has 3 in a ~220 gallon that he has had for 2 years. He started out with five though, but still not bad. Don't know what his secret is though Sorry!
This is how he got them to eat substitute foods:
If you are lucky enough to get an individual that eats clams which you are, try adding small bits of frozen foods squished onto the clam. Over time they will try it out and hopefully will like it. Sounds simple enough? don't know if it works but thats how he did it. He also said that they like huge flakes of spirulina. They are more willing to chew bits from a giant peice then to eat little bits of flakes floating around even if they are the exact same thing. I once considered stocking my whole 385 with only moorish idols but never took the chance since i have to save a LOT of lunch money to buy something that might not survive
If your tank is big enough they are supposed to do much better in groups of 3-4. Good luck!!!
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phishface
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i was being sarcastic. he asked a question, and ppl want to put him down for "not doing research before you impulse buy" that fish was (is) doomed to die in someones tank, lfs or his. i give him credit for trying. if i offended anyone, im sorry.
sharkbait9
Active Member
Originally Posted by phishface
dang. is this the agressive response forum? what do you think about the time frame of the clams in the water? that was the question, right? not "what do you think about keeping an idol?" talk about bite your head off. isnt this here to help ppl?
Get used to this. Some people just can't accept that people do successfully keep certain fish in certain size tanks with out problems. " but this book, this magazine this professional says you can't keep this in that size". If they do accept your post then they are quick to type "well your gonna have to get rid of it or up grade" Kind of like little kids “ it my box of crayons and you can't use them“ have to get the last word in. I personally don’t care what critter you keep, neither should they. People are looking for an answer, not looking to get flamed, but it happens. While yes the morish is a very delicate and has a particular diet, if people want to try and keep it so be it no one, none of us have the right to berate another for a “mistake” It seems a lot of people on these boards forget they were rookies to and did not know their a** for a hole in the ground either, and doing what was instructed by their LFS. Once we all figured out we were just a wallet for them we grew to realize the information’s available to use, we just needed to figure out the proper resources. Since sinister was most likely going by his LFS guidance he made a “mistake” So now he/she is looking for info not a slap in the face. So sinister your answer is clams should be removed any where up to two hours in warm/tropic water temp and three hours in cool water. Being that they are omnivores, I would suggest maybe some “sea veggies of different color for nutrition and variety and sue some spiraling flakes or prime reef if it will accept flake foods. Try a little mysis shrimp to. Good luck with it.
Originally Posted by alyssia
I personally find coach's responses to be very informative, not critical.
I found it critical. Such a reaction to a question about length of time for clam to be in a tank. Is unbecoming of an “experienced hobbyist” and unwarranted. Not informative.
dang. is this the agressive response forum? what do you think about the time frame of the clams in the water? that was the question, right? not "what do you think about keeping an idol?" talk about bite your head off. isnt this here to help ppl?
Get used to this. Some people just can't accept that people do successfully keep certain fish in certain size tanks with out problems. " but this book, this magazine this professional says you can't keep this in that size". If they do accept your post then they are quick to type "well your gonna have to get rid of it or up grade" Kind of like little kids “ it my box of crayons and you can't use them“ have to get the last word in. I personally don’t care what critter you keep, neither should they. People are looking for an answer, not looking to get flamed, but it happens. While yes the morish is a very delicate and has a particular diet, if people want to try and keep it so be it no one, none of us have the right to berate another for a “mistake” It seems a lot of people on these boards forget they were rookies to and did not know their a** for a hole in the ground either, and doing what was instructed by their LFS. Once we all figured out we were just a wallet for them we grew to realize the information’s available to use, we just needed to figure out the proper resources. Since sinister was most likely going by his LFS guidance he made a “mistake” So now he/she is looking for info not a slap in the face. So sinister your answer is clams should be removed any where up to two hours in warm/tropic water temp and three hours in cool water. Being that they are omnivores, I would suggest maybe some “sea veggies of different color for nutrition and variety and sue some spiraling flakes or prime reef if it will accept flake foods. Try a little mysis shrimp to. Good luck with it.
Originally Posted by alyssia
I personally find coach's responses to be very informative, not critical.
I found it critical. Such a reaction to a question about length of time for clam to be in a tank. Is unbecoming of an “experienced hobbyist” and unwarranted. Not informative.
alyssia
Active Member
Originally Posted by sharkbait9
Get used to this. Some people just can't accept that people do successfully keep certain fish in certain size tanks with out problems. " but this book, this magazine this professional says you can't keep this in that size". If they do accept your post then they are quick to type "well your gonna have to get rid of it or up grade" Kind of like little kids “ it my box of crayons and you can't use them“ have to get the last word in. I personally don’t care what critter you keep, neither should they. People are looking for an answer, not looking to get flamed, but it happens. While yes the morish is a very delicate and has a particular diet, if people want to try and keep it so be it no one, none of us have the right to berate another for a “mistake” It seems a lot of people on these boards forget they were rookies to and did not know their a** for a hole in the ground either, and doing what was instructed by their LFS. Once we all figured out we were just a wallet for them we grew to realize the information’s available to use, we just needed to figure out the proper resources. Since sinister was most likely going by his LFS guidance he made a “mistake” So now he/she is looking for info not a slap in the face. So sinister your answer is clams should be removed any where up to two hours in warm/tropic water temp and three hours in cool water. Being that they are omnivores, I would suggest maybe some “sea veggies of different color for nutrition and variety and sue some spiraling flakes or prime reef if it will accept flake foods. Try a little mysis shrimp to. Good luck with it.
I found it critical. Such a reaction to a question about length of time for clam to be in a tank. Is unbecoming of an “experienced hobbyist” and unwarranted. Not informative.
I wasn't referring to this particular post. I meant his responses in general.
Get used to this. Some people just can't accept that people do successfully keep certain fish in certain size tanks with out problems. " but this book, this magazine this professional says you can't keep this in that size". If they do accept your post then they are quick to type "well your gonna have to get rid of it or up grade" Kind of like little kids “ it my box of crayons and you can't use them“ have to get the last word in. I personally don’t care what critter you keep, neither should they. People are looking for an answer, not looking to get flamed, but it happens. While yes the morish is a very delicate and has a particular diet, if people want to try and keep it so be it no one, none of us have the right to berate another for a “mistake” It seems a lot of people on these boards forget they were rookies to and did not know their a** for a hole in the ground either, and doing what was instructed by their LFS. Once we all figured out we were just a wallet for them we grew to realize the information’s available to use, we just needed to figure out the proper resources. Since sinister was most likely going by his LFS guidance he made a “mistake” So now he/she is looking for info not a slap in the face. So sinister your answer is clams should be removed any where up to two hours in warm/tropic water temp and three hours in cool water. Being that they are omnivores, I would suggest maybe some “sea veggies of different color for nutrition and variety and sue some spiraling flakes or prime reef if it will accept flake foods. Try a little mysis shrimp to. Good luck with it.
I found it critical. Such a reaction to a question about length of time for clam to be in a tank. Is unbecoming of an “experienced hobbyist” and unwarranted. Not informative.
I wasn't referring to this particular post. I meant his responses in general.
nm reef
Active Member
Once again I need to remind members that flames....bickering and/or personal attacks are not tolerated. Neither are offensive avatars....please keep in mind the family nature of this site and remove/change the lap dance avatar.
To address the origional subject...I'd not leave clams in for long...they could easily contribute to filtration problems...and yes.....moorish idols have a very poor track record....most experiencied hobbyists will suggest they be avoided.
That said...this thread is closed.
To address the origional subject...I'd not leave clams in for long...they could easily contribute to filtration problems...and yes.....moorish idols have a very poor track record....most experiencied hobbyists will suggest they be avoided.
That said...this thread is closed.