My Dog was murdered yesterday...
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tangman99
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Sorry to hear about your dog. I've been told in Florida, there is an old law on the books still that gives you the right to shoot and kill any dog on your property without any warning or previous problems if you have a sheep in your yard. It goes back to protecting your livestock because is the only animal that is too dumb to run.
I like the idea of a few soaked hotdogs in antifreeze myself. If the dogs are that much of a problem in the neighborhood, it could have been anyone and the cops will probably not really care.
I like the idea of a few soaked hotdogs in antifreeze myself. If the dogs are that much of a problem in the neighborhood, it could have been anyone and the cops will probably not really care.
puffer24/7
Active Member
it is a known fact that pitts have a natural mean streak in them it is there nature and no one can change that
caomt
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sir, can you please identify the dog that attacked your dog?
http://gottiline.com/GOTTIPAGE.html
the beast looks smooth huh?
http://gottiline.com/GOTTIPAGE.html
the beast looks smooth huh?
cartman101
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Originally Posted by caomt
sir, can you please identify the dog that attacked your dog?
http://gottiline.com/GOTTIPAGE.html
the beast looks smooth huh?
HA cool website.....nice terminater music
sir, can you please identify the dog that attacked your dog?
http://gottiline.com/GOTTIPAGE.html
the beast looks smooth huh?
HA cool website.....nice terminater music
michelle l
Member
I'm not going to touch on any of the possible solutions, because everyone her already has. My only advice to you--and to everyone else-- is that it is never a wise idea to chain your dog outside unsupervised. If you don't have a fenced yard, then, as a responsible pet owner, a person should take the pet to potty on a leash. It's the only way to prevent harrassment or attacks by passing dogs if your yard isn't fenced.
caomt
Member
i use to have a pitbull.. you really cant keep those dogs inside.. with all my moms china and stuff.. when he was a puppy he chewed up my moms 3k guest chairs that were imported..whoa man!.. our fence was about 2 times taller then he was.. but he found a part that was a bit higher leved around the fences.. and took the jump.. i had a choke chain on him too.. tried every single collar type..he would always get loose though.. then we tried to keep him in the garage... we really couldnt let him play and run around whenever he wanted so we had to give him away.. when i grow up im gonna get a really really really tall fence just for a dog..
fishking
Active Member
Originally Posted by Cartman101
i suggest you go out and by a shotgun......
i second that, if the owners still have their dogs after the court hearing, tell them that if one of their dogs even puts a hair on your property....BOOM..bye bye doggy, neways that is messed up, my sisters friend's dog was killed, they think by and eagle or hawk, if seen sum big ones flying around
i suggest you go out and by a shotgun......
i second that, if the owners still have their dogs after the court hearing, tell them that if one of their dogs even puts a hair on your property....BOOM..bye bye doggy, neways that is messed up, my sisters friend's dog was killed, they think by and eagle or hawk, if seen sum big ones flying around
puffer24/7
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no problem
space_geek
Active Member
Originally Posted by puffer24/7
it is a known fact that pitts have a natural mean streak in them it is there nature and no one can change that
NO!! They do NOT have a "natural mean streak." They have a natural aggression towards dogs---sometimes. But ya can't exactly blame them considering they were once used as bull-baiters...and were then used for dog-fighting. Sadly, some still are. If any of you are going to try to pull any of the "lockjaw" or "brain blowing up" crap, here is a list of myths I have heard that are NOT true.
it is a known fact that pitts have a natural mean streak in them it is there nature and no one can change that
NO!! They do NOT have a "natural mean streak." They have a natural aggression towards dogs---sometimes. But ya can't exactly blame them considering they were once used as bull-baiters...and were then used for dog-fighting. Sadly, some still are. If any of you are going to try to pull any of the "lockjaw" or "brain blowing up" crap, here is a list of myths I have heard that are NOT true.
space_geek
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MYTH: All Pit Bulls are mean and vicious.
It is reported on temperament tests conducted by the American Temperament Test Society that Pit Bulls had a passing rate of 82% or better -- compared to only 77% of the general dog population.
These temperament tests consist of putting a dog through a series of unexpected situations, some involving strangers.
Any signs of unprovoked aggression or panic in these situations result in failure of the test. The achievement of Pit Bulls in this study disproves that they are inherently aggressive to people. (Please visit ATTS.org)
MYTH: A Pit Bull that shows aggression towards an animal will go for people next.
"Many working breeds have antipathy towards other animals - coonhounds go mad at the sight of a raccoon, foxhounds will not hesitate to tear a dog-like fox to shreds, greyhounds live to chase and maul rabbits and even dog-like coyotes. Even the ever-friendly beagle will slaughter a rabbit, given the chance.
And yet the greyhound, coon and foxhound and beagle are among the friendliest of breeds towards humans. And it is the same with the pit bulldog. His work through the years has been control of other animals - never humans. A correct pit bull is more often than not submissive toward all humans, and adores children.
A pit bull that snarls, lunges or growls at non-threatening humans is NOT typical of the breed." (Written by Diane Jessup)
Pit bulls that do show aggressive behavior towards humans are not typical of the breed and should be humanely euthanized.
MYTH: If a Pit Bull was never trained to fight, it will be safe with other dogs.
Pit Bulls can live peacefully with other dogs and animals. However, the Pit Bull has historically been bred to take down large animals. Early and continual socialization can help a Pit Bull be more animal friendly. Genetics, however, play an important role in how the dog will respond to other dogs and animals.
A Pit Bull that will fight another dog if unattended is a normal Pit Bull. Even if a Pit Bull does not start the fight, it has the potential to seriously injure or kill a dog once in the fight.
The Pit Bull has been bred to not back down and withstand pain until the goal is met. This quality does not carry true in all Pit Bulls, but it is safe to assume it is a potential in any Pit Bull in order to avoid unnecessary problems.
Pit Bulls have a late maturity, and a Pit Bull that was dog friendly at 7 months old may suddenly show signs of intolerance of unfamiliar dogs around two years old. Spaying and neutering the dog may help to prevent "turning on" the genetic urge to fight another dog.
All dog fights are preventable, however. Socialize a Pit Bull slowly with new dogs, and never let them play unattended. Remove items such as toys and food bowls to avoid stress.
Pit Bulls can live happily with other pets; if not left unattended. Even the "best of friends" can fight, and the outcome may be tragic. This can be true for dogs that have been together for years. Often, after the first serious fight, relations between the dogs are never the same.
Keeping that first fight from happening is a great way to ensure peaceful relations for the long run. If there is a multiple-dog household, it is important to separate the dogs when there is no one home.
Many people use crates for short times, put dogs into separate rooms, use kennels, or have outdoor areas set up for separation that are safe and secure. Pit Bulls can get along wonderfully with animals like cats, rabbits, and ferrets, but for safety's sake, never leave them alone together.
MYTH: American Pit Bull Terriers have 1600 P.S.I. in jaw pressure
Dr. Lehr Brisbin of the University of Georgia states, "To the best of our knowledge, there are no published scientific studies that would allow any meaningful comparison to be made of the biting power of various breeds of dogs.
There are, moreover, compelling technical reasons why such data describing biting power in terms of "pounds per square inch" can never be collected in a meaningful way. All figures describing biting power in such terms can be traced to either unfounded rumor or, in some cases, to newspaper articles with no foundation in factual data."
It is reported on temperament tests conducted by the American Temperament Test Society that Pit Bulls had a passing rate of 82% or better -- compared to only 77% of the general dog population.
These temperament tests consist of putting a dog through a series of unexpected situations, some involving strangers.
Any signs of unprovoked aggression or panic in these situations result in failure of the test. The achievement of Pit Bulls in this study disproves that they are inherently aggressive to people. (Please visit ATTS.org)
MYTH: A Pit Bull that shows aggression towards an animal will go for people next.
"Many working breeds have antipathy towards other animals - coonhounds go mad at the sight of a raccoon, foxhounds will not hesitate to tear a dog-like fox to shreds, greyhounds live to chase and maul rabbits and even dog-like coyotes. Even the ever-friendly beagle will slaughter a rabbit, given the chance.
And yet the greyhound, coon and foxhound and beagle are among the friendliest of breeds towards humans. And it is the same with the pit bulldog. His work through the years has been control of other animals - never humans. A correct pit bull is more often than not submissive toward all humans, and adores children.
A pit bull that snarls, lunges or growls at non-threatening humans is NOT typical of the breed." (Written by Diane Jessup)
Pit bulls that do show aggressive behavior towards humans are not typical of the breed and should be humanely euthanized.
MYTH: If a Pit Bull was never trained to fight, it will be safe with other dogs.
Pit Bulls can live peacefully with other dogs and animals. However, the Pit Bull has historically been bred to take down large animals. Early and continual socialization can help a Pit Bull be more animal friendly. Genetics, however, play an important role in how the dog will respond to other dogs and animals.
A Pit Bull that will fight another dog if unattended is a normal Pit Bull. Even if a Pit Bull does not start the fight, it has the potential to seriously injure or kill a dog once in the fight.
The Pit Bull has been bred to not back down and withstand pain until the goal is met. This quality does not carry true in all Pit Bulls, but it is safe to assume it is a potential in any Pit Bull in order to avoid unnecessary problems.
Pit Bulls have a late maturity, and a Pit Bull that was dog friendly at 7 months old may suddenly show signs of intolerance of unfamiliar dogs around two years old. Spaying and neutering the dog may help to prevent "turning on" the genetic urge to fight another dog.
All dog fights are preventable, however. Socialize a Pit Bull slowly with new dogs, and never let them play unattended. Remove items such as toys and food bowls to avoid stress.
Pit Bulls can live happily with other pets; if not left unattended. Even the "best of friends" can fight, and the outcome may be tragic. This can be true for dogs that have been together for years. Often, after the first serious fight, relations between the dogs are never the same.
Keeping that first fight from happening is a great way to ensure peaceful relations for the long run. If there is a multiple-dog household, it is important to separate the dogs when there is no one home.
Many people use crates for short times, put dogs into separate rooms, use kennels, or have outdoor areas set up for separation that are safe and secure. Pit Bulls can get along wonderfully with animals like cats, rabbits, and ferrets, but for safety's sake, never leave them alone together.
MYTH: American Pit Bull Terriers have 1600 P.S.I. in jaw pressure
Dr. Lehr Brisbin of the University of Georgia states, "To the best of our knowledge, there are no published scientific studies that would allow any meaningful comparison to be made of the biting power of various breeds of dogs.
There are, moreover, compelling technical reasons why such data describing biting power in terms of "pounds per square inch" can never be collected in a meaningful way. All figures describing biting power in such terms can be traced to either unfounded rumor or, in some cases, to newspaper articles with no foundation in factual data."
space_geek
Active Member
MYTH: American Pit Bull Terriers lock their jaws.
Dr. Brisbin: "The few studies which have been conducted of the structure of the skulls, mandibles and teeth of pit bulls show that, in proportion to their size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is no different than that of any breed of dog.
There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of any kind of "locking mechanism" unique to the structure of the jaw and/or teeth of the American Pit Bull Terrier.
MYTH: Treadmills are only used to get dogs ready to fight.
Many responsible owners utilize treadmills to help exercise their dogs. This is useful in places where weather prevents outdoor exercise, or in situations where off-leash exercise in not an option.
The treadmill is used by people that show their Pit Bulls, and do sporting activities like weight pull and agility to help keep their dogs in shape. Because Pit Bulls are athletic animals, responsibly using a treadmill can help them be healthier and happier.
MYTH: Pit Bulls brains swell/never stop growing.
This rumor started with the Doberman, and has since been said about game-bred dogs in general. The concept of an animal's brain swelling or growing too large and somehow causing the animal to "go crazy" is not based in truth in any way.
Their brains grow at the same rate as any other dog, and the only time that a Pit Bull's brain is going to swell is if it receives a serious injury. If an animal's brain were to grow too big for its head, the animal would die.
MYTH: It is unsafe to get a Pit Bull from a rescue or shelter because their past/genetics are unknown.
Under the best of circumstances, it is great to know the history of a dog, the history and health of its parents, and what that line of dogs were bred for.
If a person is buying a Pit Bull from a breeder, this information should be of top importance. However, in most shelter/rescue cases this information is not available. The Pit Bull at the shelter will often be a wonderful pet. It is important to know the general behavior of the dog.
Has it shown any aggression towards humans? Most Pit Bull rescues will not accept or adopt out Pit Bulls with any level of aggression or excessive shyness towards humans. How does this dog do with other dogs? Has it shown any undesirable behavior or habits?
It is suggested that a potential adopter of a Pit Bull bring the whole family to meet the dog. Often, shelters and rescues will allow you to take the dog for a home visit to see how they respond to the new surroundings. Most adoptions of a Pit Bull are amazing successes, and the adopter is not only receiving a pet, but they are also saving a life!
MYTH: It is best to get a puppy so that you can make it behave how you want it to.
Many people feel if they get a Pit Bull as a puppy they can train it to not be aggressive towards other dogs and increase the likelihood that the dog will have no undesirable behavior qualities.
Puppies can be a lot of fun and very rewarding, but with a new puppy there is no way of knowing how that dog will act as an adult.
One benefit of adopting a young adult or full grown Pit Bull is the ability to avoid the uncomfortable puppy behavior stage. This includes constant destructive chewing, house breaking, excessive and uncontrollable energy, teething and puppy biting, possible whining, howling, and barking for attention at night, and the time and effort it takes to begin teaching general manners and obedience.
Another benefit is that an adopter can know how an adult Pit Bull will do with other dogs, cats, children, car rides, and other certain situations. Bringing a puppy up in the most loving and social environment can only alter its predetermined genetic urges so much.
In other words, having a dog since puppyhood does not necessarily mean it will have all of the qualities desired in a pet. It may end up having some traits that are undesirable. An adult Pit Bull, however, will have more of an established personality, and an adopter can know what to expect with the dog.
Dr. Brisbin: "The few studies which have been conducted of the structure of the skulls, mandibles and teeth of pit bulls show that, in proportion to their size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is no different than that of any breed of dog.
There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of any kind of "locking mechanism" unique to the structure of the jaw and/or teeth of the American Pit Bull Terrier.
MYTH: Treadmills are only used to get dogs ready to fight.
Many responsible owners utilize treadmills to help exercise their dogs. This is useful in places where weather prevents outdoor exercise, or in situations where off-leash exercise in not an option.
The treadmill is used by people that show their Pit Bulls, and do sporting activities like weight pull and agility to help keep their dogs in shape. Because Pit Bulls are athletic animals, responsibly using a treadmill can help them be healthier and happier.
MYTH: Pit Bulls brains swell/never stop growing.
This rumor started with the Doberman, and has since been said about game-bred dogs in general. The concept of an animal's brain swelling or growing too large and somehow causing the animal to "go crazy" is not based in truth in any way.
Their brains grow at the same rate as any other dog, and the only time that a Pit Bull's brain is going to swell is if it receives a serious injury. If an animal's brain were to grow too big for its head, the animal would die.
MYTH: It is unsafe to get a Pit Bull from a rescue or shelter because their past/genetics are unknown.
Under the best of circumstances, it is great to know the history of a dog, the history and health of its parents, and what that line of dogs were bred for.
If a person is buying a Pit Bull from a breeder, this information should be of top importance. However, in most shelter/rescue cases this information is not available. The Pit Bull at the shelter will often be a wonderful pet. It is important to know the general behavior of the dog.
Has it shown any aggression towards humans? Most Pit Bull rescues will not accept or adopt out Pit Bulls with any level of aggression or excessive shyness towards humans. How does this dog do with other dogs? Has it shown any undesirable behavior or habits?
It is suggested that a potential adopter of a Pit Bull bring the whole family to meet the dog. Often, shelters and rescues will allow you to take the dog for a home visit to see how they respond to the new surroundings. Most adoptions of a Pit Bull are amazing successes, and the adopter is not only receiving a pet, but they are also saving a life!
MYTH: It is best to get a puppy so that you can make it behave how you want it to.
Many people feel if they get a Pit Bull as a puppy they can train it to not be aggressive towards other dogs and increase the likelihood that the dog will have no undesirable behavior qualities.
Puppies can be a lot of fun and very rewarding, but with a new puppy there is no way of knowing how that dog will act as an adult.
One benefit of adopting a young adult or full grown Pit Bull is the ability to avoid the uncomfortable puppy behavior stage. This includes constant destructive chewing, house breaking, excessive and uncontrollable energy, teething and puppy biting, possible whining, howling, and barking for attention at night, and the time and effort it takes to begin teaching general manners and obedience.
Another benefit is that an adopter can know how an adult Pit Bull will do with other dogs, cats, children, car rides, and other certain situations. Bringing a puppy up in the most loving and social environment can only alter its predetermined genetic urges so much.
In other words, having a dog since puppyhood does not necessarily mean it will have all of the qualities desired in a pet. It may end up having some traits that are undesirable. An adult Pit Bull, however, will have more of an established personality, and an adopter can know what to expect with the dog.
space_geek
Active Member
Looks like I've got everybody speechless...LOL! Just kidding there. But no one has responded to this in a while so I am gonna bump this thread.
BUMP!!!
BUMP!!!
darth tang
Active Member
Originally Posted by puffer24/7
it is a known fact that pitts have a natural mean streak in them it is there nature and no one can change that
Not true as previously posted about...they only have a natural instinct to gto after animals, but this can be broken by the owner or prevented. It is an irresponsible pet owner that allows their dog to get to this point.
Also, the worst dog for aggression towards animals and people currently in the country is the rottweiler. There are more rottweiler reports now than Pit Bulls. This may just be a numbers and percentage thing and does not necesarily reflect on the breed.
it is a known fact that pitts have a natural mean streak in them it is there nature and no one can change that
Not true as previously posted about...they only have a natural instinct to gto after animals, but this can be broken by the owner or prevented. It is an irresponsible pet owner that allows their dog to get to this point.
Also, the worst dog for aggression towards animals and people currently in the country is the rottweiler. There are more rottweiler reports now than Pit Bulls. This may just be a numbers and percentage thing and does not necesarily reflect on the breed.
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jdragunas
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as soon as i saw that post, i knew you were going to go bulistic!!! Adam, you rock!
space_geek
Active Member
Originally Posted by jdragunas
as soon as i saw that post, i knew you were going to go bulistic!!! Adam, you rock!
LOL...well I was bored and clicked on this thread and scrolled down, and as soon as I saw that post...I flipped out as you said. LOL! I know I rock...
as soon as i saw that post, i knew you were going to go bulistic!!! Adam, you rock!
LOL...well I was bored and clicked on this thread and scrolled down, and as soon as I saw that post...I flipped out as you said. LOL! I know I rock...
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jdragunas
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lol
space_geek
Active Member
But, thank you. As you and many others can tell...I love pitbulls. I am supportive of them, and as stated before, a people aggressive pit bull is NOT normal of the breed, and any pitbull that shows ANY aggression toward humans should be HUMANELY (not with a shotgun as said before, whoever said that should be ashamed) euthanized. However, as happened with this, pitbulls are SOMETIMES aggressive towards other animals, but many times this can be reversed as with my little Annie-bananie. (mimzy talk)