my fragging experiment
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mr. guitar
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Looks good. I haven't done that to a mushroom...yet (I'm a little scared to). How did you frag it? Good luck!!!
Take a razor and make like cutting a pizza... I usually cut them in half, making sure to keep a peice of the mouth on both sides... I hope thats netting and not plastic... 
zanoshanox
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Looks great, I'm thinking fo doing the same thing with mine, very nice!
sharkbait9
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i do shrooms and rics and yumas all the same with the exception of to the cover.
In fact i just fragged out my super larg toad stool the same way.
In fact i just fragged out my super larg toad stool the same way.
saltn00b
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thats really cool, but does anyone know which shrooms propagate by longitudinal fission as opposed to spore - spreading?
for example i know that ricordia, umbrella mushrooms normally will split, however, my metallic reds do not, they all of a sudden start popping up near by through a some sort of spore release function (nearest i can figure).
for example i know that ricordia, umbrella mushrooms normally will split, however, my metallic reds do not, they all of a sudden start popping up near by through a some sort of spore release function (nearest i can figure).
sharkbait9
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QUOTE=Isistius]sharkbait-
how long before they adhere to the rock/rubble?
I’ll cheat some times with them to adhere to rock rubble. If you can see inside the container I have rock rubble and sand. After the initial fragging I’ll just throw them in the container with the sand and the rock and let them do their thing. If they don’t stick to the rock or can’t get close enough they will grab hold of the sand. If they grab the sand then I’ll glue the sand covered foot to the rock. After that they pretty much will take over by moving around either by themselves or with the help of a power head.
Either way once a foot print is left a new shroom will emerge, creating more.
To answer your question, I have had adhesion in two days all they way to three weeks. The containment has to be in an area where the parent or “donor” coral was from. Same flow rate same light to help speed recovery and adhesion.
Originally Posted by saltn00b
thats really cool, but does anyone know which shrooms propagate by longitudinal fission as opposed to spore - spreading?
for example i know that ricordia, umbrella mushrooms normally will split, however, my metallic reds do not, they all of a sudden start popping up near by through a some sort of spore release function (nearest i can figure).
I have never seen any of my shrooms split, except for my fuzzy green shroom. All my other shrooms always sprout a new head and then leave a chunk of it foot and stem with the new head (as you can see in the pic. This rock started as 1 heads fragged into a total of 5 parts) I’ve also had shrooms start to grow no where near a foot or another shroom.
I really think that a piece breaks free and travels the rock to find a new area to start a colony. I think the piece itself is so small and it happens so slow, that to us its just a “magical experience”. I can’t believe spores are released into the water column. If that were the case I would have shrooms all over the tank.
Now basing my theory on the shroom colony expansion is coming from my zoas. I watch my zoas spread by slinking their way from the colony. I see this expansion all the time this little grayish flesh piece starts creeping along the rock and a couple of weeks later little heads are popping up on the other end. (see pic for visual aid) so until my theory is dispelled, I have no choice but to continue on with my theory.
Originally Posted by hagfish
Sharkbait, is that eggcrate over a tupperware container? I never thought of that. I like it!
Yes, I feel I get better water flow better light penetration and give less stress to the coral then having veil or other pores covers holding them down. That being said I still will use bridal veil to cover and hold certain frags down.
Right now I’m getting ready to experiment with a new way to hold down colt coral on rubble rock.
The way I see it when a coral fragments itself, they just break off or some other force will help fragment the coral. Whether it be man or mother nature, the coral just fumbles around in the currant till it gets lodge into a crevis or stuck under something. So it never really trapped/tied down on top of rubble or a piece of rock.
how long before they adhere to the rock/rubble?
I’ll cheat some times with them to adhere to rock rubble. If you can see inside the container I have rock rubble and sand. After the initial fragging I’ll just throw them in the container with the sand and the rock and let them do their thing. If they don’t stick to the rock or can’t get close enough they will grab hold of the sand. If they grab the sand then I’ll glue the sand covered foot to the rock. After that they pretty much will take over by moving around either by themselves or with the help of a power head.
Either way once a foot print is left a new shroom will emerge, creating more.
To answer your question, I have had adhesion in two days all they way to three weeks. The containment has to be in an area where the parent or “donor” coral was from. Same flow rate same light to help speed recovery and adhesion.
Originally Posted by saltn00b
thats really cool, but does anyone know which shrooms propagate by longitudinal fission as opposed to spore - spreading?
for example i know that ricordia, umbrella mushrooms normally will split, however, my metallic reds do not, they all of a sudden start popping up near by through a some sort of spore release function (nearest i can figure).
I have never seen any of my shrooms split, except for my fuzzy green shroom. All my other shrooms always sprout a new head and then leave a chunk of it foot and stem with the new head (as you can see in the pic. This rock started as 1 heads fragged into a total of 5 parts) I’ve also had shrooms start to grow no where near a foot or another shroom.
I really think that a piece breaks free and travels the rock to find a new area to start a colony. I think the piece itself is so small and it happens so slow, that to us its just a “magical experience”. I can’t believe spores are released into the water column. If that were the case I would have shrooms all over the tank.
Now basing my theory on the shroom colony expansion is coming from my zoas. I watch my zoas spread by slinking their way from the colony. I see this expansion all the time this little grayish flesh piece starts creeping along the rock and a couple of weeks later little heads are popping up on the other end. (see pic for visual aid) so until my theory is dispelled, I have no choice but to continue on with my theory.
Originally Posted by hagfish
Sharkbait, is that eggcrate over a tupperware container? I never thought of that. I like it!
Yes, I feel I get better water flow better light penetration and give less stress to the coral then having veil or other pores covers holding them down. That being said I still will use bridal veil to cover and hold certain frags down.
Right now I’m getting ready to experiment with a new way to hold down colt coral on rubble rock.
The way I see it when a coral fragments itself, they just break off or some other force will help fragment the coral. Whether it be man or mother nature, the coral just fumbles around in the currant till it gets lodge into a crevis or stuck under something. So it never really trapped/tied down on top of rubble or a piece of rock.
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sea_star
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Do you have to include part of the mouth on each bit of ricordia that you frag?
sharkbait9
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I have always heard you do and you don’t. My opinion if I can I will. In my experience I have fraged them and at times been a little over zealous and have made a few more cuts then I should have, but the end results have all been the same more ric/shrooms frags alive and well. I really feel as long as I/you can get some of the stem with each fragg the better off it will be, recovery and over all speed of growth.
They don’t have a true digestive track to worry about, more of just a “stomach” that breaks down food.
I find a new razor blade works the best for pretty much all my fragging needs. A scissor is ok but I like the a new clean razor when ever I go to cut or chop something.
You really want clean straight cuts, not jagged.
They don’t have a true digestive track to worry about, more of just a “stomach” that breaks down food.
I find a new razor blade works the best for pretty much all my fragging needs. A scissor is ok but I like the a new clean razor when ever I go to cut or chop something.
You really want clean straight cuts, not jagged.
