My Rock Is Dying! Curing, But Dying!

spanko

Active Member
Really depends on the amount of water you change. I know some have changed upwards of 50% +- to control the amount of ammonia accumulating. Depends on what you personally want to accomplish during your tanks cycle. Meither way is "wrong". Just depends on where you want to go with it and the amount of work and money you want to put into it.
 

locoyo386

Member
Hi there,
Well if you are indeed curing the LR, shouldn't this be done in a cointainer and not the DT(not a biggy if you do not have livestock)?
From what I know, you also have to do heavy water changes to keep the amm. down (which spikes constantly do to die off). At each water change you should be cleaning the LR. This is done untill your amm. level is zero.
I could be wrong as I am a newby at this aswell.
 
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vinnyraptor

Guest
Originally Posted by lil.guppy
http:///forum/post/2904902
46 gallon bow and I do about 4-5 gallons
just let it go! EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE. let the tank cycle with the live rock. what are you trying so desperatly to keep alive anyway? coraline algae, it will ALL grow back. this will also guarentee that nothing "bad" is in your tank, i.e. hitchhikers. your LR will not "die" when i cycle i dont even bother testing the water until a few weeks have past. your wasting your test kit.
relax, have a glass of wine or a beer and KNOW that everyting is gonna be alright. you didn't waste your money, and you didn't do anything wrong. in a few weeks you'll be able to add some sort of livestock wether it be a fish, or members of a CUC and you'll be happy. this hobby requires one thing and one thing only. PATIENCE!
 

locoyo386

Member
Hi there,
Sorry but I completely disagree with you.
At a minumum it requires two things;
PATIENCE and MONEY
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2905011
just let it go! EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE. let the tank cycle with the live rock. what are you trying so desperatly to keep alive anyway? coraline algae, it will ALL grow back. this will also guarentee that nothing "bad" is in your tank, i.e. hitchhikers. your LR will not "die" when i cycle i dont even bother testing the water until a few weeks have past. your wasting your test kit.
relax, have a glass of wine or a beer and KNOW that everyting is gonna be alright. you didn't waste your money, and you didn't do anything wrong. in a few weeks you'll be able to add some sort of livestock wether it be a fish, or members of a CUC and you'll be happy. this hobby requires one thing and one thing only. PATIENCE!
 

kas2247

Member
HA! Now ain't that the truth!

I completely agree about just letting it go, though. The ammonia will spike, some of the fun little critters will probably die, but the coralline will all come back and you'll still find that critters will pop out of the rock after a few weeks. I put my new rock in on Christmas Eve (after curing it in a separate bin for 2 weeks) and the coralline immediately bleached, but it's starting to come back already. I notice new things on it every day.
 

lil.guppy

Active Member
But the question is.....how much MORE carolina or 'good' growth can I have IF I DO change the water? eh

I see what ya'll are saying though
 

kas2247

Member
It'll be a good experiment! Let us know how it works out.
When it comes to my tank, I'm pretty anal about cleaning and whatnot... but I know if I was changing the water every day I'd burn myself out really fast and not want to touch the aquarium. That's just me though, I hope it all works out for you!
 

john57

Member
I had a similar situation with my tank. Ammonia spiked big time after a couple of days. I did water changes, about 20% every day or two and really didn't see a major drop in ammonia but I figured it couldn't hurt. After 8 or 9 days, the ammonia dropped to nothing, the nitrite climbed to moderate levels and it took 2 1/2 weeks for that to drop. The nitrate seemed to drop to 0 very shortly after that.
You'll get a good amount of diatoms, the brown stuff covering the rocks during this period but just live with it. Once all params are to 0, make a water change and get some snails, a bunch of them, and over a week or two, they will rid your rock of most of the diatoms. As the snails cleaned the rock, the coraline that had been bleached seemed to color up overnight. Just be patient with the whole process and change the water as much as you want in my opinion. I've been told by many on here that the bacteria are mostly in your rock and substrate and the water change will not slow the process. The only way water changes would slow things would be if the result was a drop in ammonia below a point that would trigger the cycle.
 
You'll be fine. I take the opposite approach. I know it's all going to die off and instead of doing constant water changes through the cycle I arrange my rock, add the sand, let it settle then kick on the filters and walk away.

Then I will check it in about 2 weeks to see just where I'm at then walk away again... about a month in I'll really start looking closely and making modifications and additions to get it in line.
In all three tanks I've had EVERYTHING has come back (coralline, etc.) I would imagine that with a 6 day ground shipping most of it died before it even arrived.
You'll be fine. Enjoy and welcome to your new addiction
 

lil.guppy

Active Member

Originally Posted by kas2247
http:///forum/post/2905386
It'll be a good experiment! Let us know how it works out.
When it comes to my tank, I'm pretty anal about cleaning and whatnot... but I know if I was changing the water every day I'd burn myself out really fast and not want to touch the aquarium
. That's just me though, I hope it all works out for you!

I have a boring life and have nothing else better to do.
 

sagxman

Member
Hmm...Why not try a different test kit or take some water to a LFS for testing. Maybe you have a bad kit. Wouldn't be the first time that happened.
Other than getting a second opinion on your parameters I agree with most of the others, let it go and do its thing.
 

saltymarine

Member
I would really just leave it alone. As already stated the 6 day shipping is the reason the levels are so high. Leave it alone and it will all be ok. I personally thing that with all of those water changes and tampering with the levels you are just prolonging the whole thing. I bet if you left it alone you would see significant improvement in a week and even more in two.
 
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