Nano Filtration and Lighting

actionjack

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I will be starting up a small nano reef tank soon (3-10 gallons). I want to keep lots of corals and maybe a small goby. While doing a search I came across a nano-skimmer, its a really small protein skimmer and it would be perfect for the tank I want to set up.
So my question is: Can I run a nano reef with only a skimmer and LR/LS as filtration?
Also, I was looking at 150W MH pendants, would this be too much light and burn up my corals?
 

triga22

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I wouldnt run lr as your filter. If you want just get a nano cube. It comes with good lighting and a filter. Best bet.
 

actionjack

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Originally Posted by TriGa22
I wouldnt run lr as your filter. If you want just get a nano cube. It comes with good lighting and a filter. Best bet.
Its not just LR... I'm gonna run a protein skimmer. And I'm going for high light demanding corals that a nano cube's lighting cant sustain.
 

fedukeford

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if you get the new 24 gallon aquapod im pretty sure you can upgrade the lighting to metalhalide, the smallest tank you can have a single goby in is a 10 gallon
 

actionjack

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This will be a desktop tank, so I was looking at smaller then 10 gallons. I dont need to have a goby, some shrimps would do. No aquapods or nano cubes, I want a rectangular tank, not cube. That said, will this filtration work or not?
 

zanoshanox

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Go with aqua[pod and get the 70 w mh fixture...or maybe its a 150...? Idk anyways thats what u want and you can run a surface skimmer.
 

actionjack

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I really dont want an aquapod or nanocube or anything like that! I just want to know if i can run a reef with a skimmer and LR/LS as my filtration.......
 

chipmaker

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Seems no one wants to address the question you asked and only insist yuy get a nano cube or aqua pod. Screw those all in one outfits and go with a tank of your choice, as yu have a lot more options open up to you as well as a prodiuct thats not all proprietart and prone to cracks and other problems....That said,
Yes, yu can use LR as your main filter. It needs to be good live rock and preferably at the stocking raito of 1.25 to 1.5 pounds per gal. More is better, but it works, no it does not work, it works GREAT!.
I would still use a hob type filter as it will give you a bit more water capacity, as well as add current to the tank, and provide a plac eot put a heater or a bag of Activated charcoal etc if need be. It also provides a place in which yu can place a coarse sponge for mechanical filtration is needed....YOu can add some macro algae to this hob filter unit, and a small cheap light and turn it into a fuge pretty easy. The best hob filters for providing a hang on back fuge like this is the Aqua Clear filters...Depenidng on what sized tank yu get will determine what filter would be best. A 10 gal tanak can easily handle a AC110 filter (old model 500). 5 gal tanks wold do well with a AC70. All are easy to modify without having to buy additional parts to make them into a fuge thayt works great.
You can get a surface type skimmer that attaches to these Aqua Clear filters from the AC Mini up to the AC110 that does a fantastic job of removing the surface film.......A small pico tank (less than 5 gal IIRC) with a ACMini or AC50 w/skimmer is an awesome little setup, so is a a10 or 5 gal with the AC70 or 110 and the skimmer.......The skimmer is about $6 online.
Contrary to what everyone says, yes you can have a single goby and some shrimp in thiese small tanks. I have mainly pico tanks of 2 gal and less and each and every one have fish in them and they do just fine. I normally keep a yasha hasha goby and shrimp in one, or a yellow clown goby, citrron clown goby, black clown goby, yellow watchman goby, neon goby all do well in the small tanks....The biggest problem is keeping tank cool enough, but its sitll doable. Experiment a bait to determine how you can keep temps within reason befor e adding any fish or inverts. Yu can get retro light kits and make a hood and pack a lot of watts in a tank as small as a 1 or 2 gal capapcity or go with a 1 x 96 watt quad light by coralife with a 50/50 bulb and you can keep pretty most any thing but SPS and a few other odds and ends..........more than sufficient for a great variety......I fyur good at DIY there is a heap of stuff that can be made that will work just fine with these smaller tanks, even down to protein skimmers.....I make my own protein skimmers for my pico tanks and everything works perfect.
I would not make a sand bed any deeper than say 1" at most. Have fun, your on the right track....
 

chipmaker

Active Member
Originally Posted by TriGa22
I wouldnt run lr as your filter. If you want just get a nano cube. It comes with good lighting and a filter. Best bet.
Pretty well everyone with a nano or aqua pod does not use the filter pads or ceramic rings Bio media etc. They use live rock primarily in the display portion and run lr rubble and macro algae in the rear compartments as their sole source of filtration. The bio media etc is nothing but a nitrate factory, that always needs cleaning. The previous way I mentioned does not need any type of cleaning done to it.........and it works like a charm. The key is the live rock.........
 

chipmaker

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Originally Posted by actionjack
Its not just LR... I'm gonna run a protein skimmer. And I'm going for high light demanding corals that a nano cube's lighting cant sustain.
A 150 watt MH would be kind of overkill and it would be pretty hard keeping the tank cool. A 70 watt MH would be more than sufficient for a 10 gal or less nano, and I would still bet keeping it cool espeically if its less than a 10 gal tank will stil be a challenge, but its still doable. I had a 2.5 gal with 70 and kept SPS and clams just fine.......for well over a year......but it used to suck up so much top off water due to fans needed to induce evapaoration to keep it cool that it was more costly to maintain in time and water than anaya other tank we have, so we broke it down and traded in the SPS etc for softies, and sold the MH and go strictly power compacts or HO or T-5's anymore......
 

actionjack

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Thanks chipmaker

I think I decided on a 7.5g bowfront i saw at the shop. I'm not too sure on the lighting though, Im not into SPS but I do like clams, so I want some strong lighting so I thought that the MH would do it, but I didnt think about heating problems. Ill see what happens, soon as I get the tank :).
Thanks again chipmaker you helped alot
 

bojik

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Originally Posted by fedukeford
if you get the new 24 gallon aquapod im pretty sure you can upgrade the lighting to metalhalide, the smallest tank you can have a single goby in is a 10 gallon
I've seen a catalina maintaned in one of this pico tanks they sell with the mini filter and light on them. Been in it healthily for nearly a year (that i've seen been in longer than that). But that might be an exception to the rule. And theres also those mini gobies that only get about 1.5 inches or something like that.. i forget what its called. Also even though probably way more than overstocked I have 3 firefish gobies in a 5 gal hex with a tube worm. Strange thing is its my most stable tank. *shrugs* Had it stocked like that 6-7 months
 
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