National Labor Relations Board.......

darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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A few weeks ago, this group of people filed a suit to prevent Boeing from building a new plant in South Carolina. Instead they are trying to force Boeing to build it in Washington.
Let's start the discussion there....keep in mind Boeing doesn't want to build in Washington......
Seems odd to me, prevent a company from building and creating jobs......
 
bionicarm

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Does this 'board' have jurisdiction in South Carolina? How can they file a suit to keep a business from building a plant anywhere they desire? Maybe the State of NC, or the city where they want to build doesn't want to give Boeing tax abatements or concessions to build there. Need more specifics on the suit, and how they can justify filing it.
 
ironeagle2006

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Now the NLRB is going after DELTA for the UNION losing an Election that the NLRB Supervised and Counted the VOTES in. The Flight Attendants and Delta were Non UNION and never wanted to BE UNION. Well when Delta bought Northwest out the UNION thought we cna get the Flight Attendants UNIONIZED easily. The NLRB ruled that any votes not cast were Yes Votes and all that crap. THEY still LOST they electuion by 20% and now the NLRB is accusing DELTA of interferring in the ELECTION. Excuse me you declared that someone that was not even there was a vote FOR the UNION and they still LOST so they got their BUTTS kicked and your STILL NOT HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS. Get over it UNION LACKEYS at the BSNLRB your Buddies in the UNIONS are finding out that the people are tired of their BS.
 
mantisman51

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It's a pretty simple complaint. They claim since they represent Boeings workers that Boeing is trying to move production to a right-to-work state to weaken the union. Whereas if it was placed(kept) in Washington, they can have a closed shop and force all workers in the union. Typical union tactic, don't let the employees decide-same as the Delta deal. Employees don't want a union-so what, we'll keep suing until a union is forced on them. It is racketeering as plain and unvarnished as it could be, but the Obama Administration is going along with it.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Bionic. Here's the story. The unions have struck against Boeing a few times in recent years. Supposedly Boeing has said they would consider the costs of said strikes when it comes time to expand. The national labor relations board which is currently headed by an 0bama recess appointment who is the former lawyer for the AFL-CIO I believe is trying to say Boeing is unfairly punishing the unions by exanding to a right to work state, despite the fact Boeing has added 2000 plus jobs in Washington since the time of the last strike.
 
bionicarm

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Seems like a good reason to disband the union. Yea, that would never happen. This is one reason why Toyota never allowed unions into their facilities. When they were looking for a place to build a new Tundra plant in the US, there were four or five cities chomping at the bit to convince them to build there. We got it, and now they're even building Tacoma's.
 
reefraff

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The idiot in charge of the NLRB doesn't seem to understand how this is going to play with the public once it goes to court and starts making news. People are already miffed over some of the pension plans and stuff. Here in Colorado the Governor has just proposed a change that will require public employees to wait until they are 60 to draw their pension. What a heartless bass turd. The idea that the government can tell a company where it can and can't locate because of unions should be offensive to a lot of people. Boeing announced this expansion a few years ago and has already built the plant. NOW the government wants to stop them?
 
stdreb27

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It has been news for a month, and no one cares. Personally if I were Boeing, I'd be telling them so long, now I'm going to play dirty... IMO this is one of the more grievous stories that has happened under obama. And should be front page news. But it barely has seen the light of day.
 
slice

slice

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/386003/national-labor-relations-board#post_3388051
It has been news for a month, and no one cares. Personally if I were Boeing, I'd be telling them so long, now I'm going to play dirty... IMO this is one of the more grievous stories that has happened under obama. And should be front page news. But it barely has seen the light of day.
There are a host of "should be front page news" issues where regulation has taken over what should only be decided by legislation.
If you don't know what I am talking about, you are not paying attention.
 
bionicarm

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I guess I'm confused. So this NLRB group has filed a suit against Boeing for trying to build this plant in South Carolina. What has this got to do with the Feds? Do you expect them to come in and tell the NLRB they aren't allowed to represent their 'claimants" (i.e. union members) in some frivoulous lawsuit? I thought the Conservative hardliners were against Federal Government intervention when it comes to labor or corporate disputes. Or does that only apply when it's unions doing the suing?
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/386003/national-labor-relations-board#post_3388060
I guess I'm confused. So this NLRB group has filed a suit against Boeing for trying to build this plant in South Carolina. What has this got to do with the Feds? Do you expect them to come in and tell the NLRB they aren't allowed to represent their 'claimants" (i.e. union members) in some frivoulous lawsuit? I thought the Conservative hardliners were against Federal Government intervention when it comes to labor or corporate disputes. Or does that only apply when it's unions doing the suing?
The National Labor Relations Board is an arm of the government which is supposed to be an unbiased mediator between labor and employers.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/386003/national-labor-relations-board#post_3388060
I guess I'm confused. So this NLRB group has filed a suit against Boeing for trying to build this plant in South Carolina. What has this got to do with the Feds? Do you expect them to come in and tell the NLRB they aren't allowed to represent their 'claimants" (i.e. union members) in some frivoulous lawsuit? I thought the Conservative hardliners were against Federal Government intervention when it comes to labor or corporate disputes. Or does that only apply when it's unions doing the suing?
I could be mistaken, but the NLRB was the ruling body. The union raised a complaint and the NLRB ruled that Boeing couldn't open a plant in a non-union state.
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/386003/national-labor-relations-board#post_3388061
The National Labor Relations Board is an arm of the government which is supposed to be an unbiased mediator between labor and employers.
Here's a link to their web site. I don't see any reference where it says they are an "arm of the government". Looks to me like a bunch of self-described lawyers whose only goal is to enforce and protect the National Labor Relations Act.
http://www.nlrb.gov/who-we-are/our-history
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/386003/national-labor-relations-board#post_3388077
Here's a link to their web site. I don't see any reference where it says they are an "arm of the government". Looks to me like a bunch of self-described lawyers whose only goal is to enforce and protect the National Labor Relations Act.
http://www.nlrb.gov/who-we-are/our-history
Notice the .gov in their address? The president appoints the board and the senate is supposed to confirm them.
From their website
"The National Labor Relations Board is an independent federal agency vested with the power to safeguard employees' rights to organize and to determine whether to have unions as their bargaining representative. The agency also acts to prevent and remedy unfair labor practices committed by private sector employers and unions". """'
"On the adjudicative side of the NLRB are 40 Administrative Law Judges and a Board whose five members are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate". "
 
reefraff

reefraff

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In the case of Boeing the board says they can't open a new plant in a right to work state. I suspect Boeing will have to defend themself in court and unltimately win but how many Billions in un needed costs will it add to their expansion?
 
darthtang aw

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It would have to be one that could cripple the country economically - Telecomm, Oil and Gas, etc.  A big giant plane company won't cut it. 
 
 
Wont happen....would hurt their stock value initially and affect profits.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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What it will take is for the people to get their bullies full and throw the union out. The company really cant do it.
 
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