Need a little help

novahobbies

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Display refugiums are always kind of nice to see, but you should remember that an aquarium fuge usually gets dirty pretty quickly. I always felt like that was sort of the point - the fuge can get "dirty" with some funky algae so the main tank stays cleaner. Since I'm a fan of 'fuges, it never bothers me to see a weedy 'fuge.....as long as it's not overrun by fish mulm and debris, it's "pretty" to me.
If you're wanting to propagate different types of macroalgae, you're in luck. Chaetomorpha may not do exactly what you're hoping it will do, but there are plenty of different kinds of Caulerpa that may fit the bill. Look for C. prolifera or C. mexicana.... I have C. racemosa in my tank, which is pretty nice but it tends to be very "clingy" to the rock and occasionally the coral. I don't think you're going to find honest-to-goodness Kelp species, since they are protected by law and require a VERY cold tank to grow, but some of the above mentioned Caulerpa species will grow in vertical strands if you aquascape them correctly. If you want some color variety, you could look at a red Botryocladia species or the brown Sargassum macros that are often for sale. Look for the kind that is anchored to a substrate rather than the floating stuff. If you google "macroalgae for sale" there are a number of reputable dealers that are listed in the top sections.
Since many seahorses in Florida are found associated with the grass flats near shore, I've always been tempted to start a planted seagrass tank. I just worry because of the difficulty level I've read about regarding them. Seagrasses are not true macroalgaes, and many are considered somewhat advanced for the common hobbyist. I don't know what kind you found, but be aware that many kinds need a deep, almost muddy sandbed to thrive. I've read that shoal grass can live in regular sand bed applications, though.
As for your fuge, I'd probably go with the 20g long. Seems like it would be easier to subdivide with partitions than the curved glass of a biocube, right?
 

posiden

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Originally Posted by novahobbies http:///forum/thread/381712/need-a-little-help/20#post_3333020
Display refugiums are always kind of nice to see, but you should remember that an aquarium fuge usually gets dirty pretty quickly. I always felt like that was sort of the point - the fuge can get "dirty" with some funky algae so the main tank stays cleaner. Since I'm a fan of 'fuges, it never bothers me to see a weedy 'fuge.....as long as it's not overrun by fish mulm and debris, it's "pretty" to me.
If you're wanting to propagate different types of macroalgae, you're in luck. Chaetomorpha may not do exactly what you're hoping it will do, but there are plenty of different kinds of Caulerpa that may fit the bill. Look for C. prolifera or C. mexicana.... I have C. racemosa in my tank, which is pretty nice but it tends to be very "clingy" to the rock and occasionally the coral. I don't think you're going to find honest-to-goodness Kelp species, since they are protected by law and require a VERY cold tank to grow, but some of the above mentioned Caulerpa species will grow in vertical strands if you aquascape them correctly. If you want some color variety, you could look at a red Botryocladia species or the brown Sargassum macros that are often for sale. Look for the kind that is anchored to a substrate rather than the floating stuff. If you google "macroalgae for sale" there are a number of reputable dealers that are listed in the top sections.
Since many seahorses in Florida are found associated with the grass flats near shore, I've always been tempted to start a planted seagrass tank. I just worry because of the difficulty level I've read about regarding them. Seagrasses are not true macroalgaes, and many are considered somewhat advanced for the common hobbyist. I don't know what kind you found, but be aware that many kinds need a deep, almost muddy sandbed to thrive. I've read that shoal grass can live in regular sand bed applications, though.
As for your fuge, I'd probably go with the 20g long. Seems like it would be easier to subdivide with partitions than the curved glass of a biocube, right?
Thank you for all the help.
I will check out those macros you mentioned. I was unaware of the fact that, sea grass was hard to keep. I hope I don't do any damage with it. It makes me happy that its just in a "starter" tank. What I mean is, I have a tank going to build up pods and such to go in the DT when its cycled off. I even had a thought today to build and start up the refug. That should be a big jump start for the tank.
I also don't mind a little grime on the walls of a refug. I was thinking of just keeping the looking panel clean.
A side note, I got my rock yesterday. Short of a relapse of the mind on the DT...I hope to start building something soon. I am going to look at a 65 tonight. Maybe,LOL.
 

novahobbies

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Originally Posted by Posiden http:///forum/thread/381712/need-a-little-help/20#post_3333211
I will check out those macros you mentioned. I was unaware of the fact that, sea grass was hard to keep. I hope I don't do any damage with it. It makes me happy that its just in a "starter" tank. What I mean is, I have a tank going to build up pods and such to go in the DT when its cycled off. I even had a thought today to build and start up the refug. That should be a big jump start for the tank.
I wouldn't worry too much about it. I mean, you already have the seagrass, so you might as well give it a shot. With luck you'll be able to keep a little of it going, and maybe help develop your pod population in the flora.
Whenever I get back to a more stable financial situation I want to build a couple "project" tanks.... one of the planned projects is a 20g long or 30g that is specifically for a trio or so of dragonface pipefish. I'd envisioned a seagrass planted tank with two grass patches on either side and a clear area in the middle...sort of a miniaturized version of the grass flats off the coast of Florida here. It would have a fairly muddy substrate, a HOB refugium, and of course some LR.... but the focus would mainly be the grass and the pipefish. Since these buggers are almost obligatory copepod feeders (almost as bad as wild Mandarins), I'd definitely need the HOB fuge to breed the pods.
Anyway, that's the future. In the here and now....well, I think we need some pics of the collected stash you've got accumulated, sir!!!
 
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