Need a puffer ID!

johnbob

Member
I have never seen a puffer like this and i was wondering if anyone has ever seen this in a LFS. Its listed as Diodon Hystrix.
 

theweirdo

Member
That does look like a porcupine puffer (because of the head shape). But from the body and the body markings, it looks like a Stellatus Puffer. But, still, I'd have to say it's a porc puffer.
 

boalgf

Member
It is a Diodon hystrix, but it isn't a porcupine puffer it is a Spotted Burrfish. Not a good idea for the home aquairum as they get to around 3 feet.
 

ophiura

Active Member
I think we are basically just confusing common names, LOL. Funny how often it happens in this hobby! Give me latin any day!!
The family Diodontidae are the porcupinefishes AKA burrfish. There are several common names for it, but IMO they really are generally not suitable for aquaria though lots of people keep them. They get to be a VERY large fish. :happyfish
 

johnbob

Member
Well I'm getting A 300g in june. Do you think that would house a fullgrown burrfish or would i still need to upgrade in the future.
 

promisetbg

Active Member
You could do it easy in a 300. Keep in mind that they are messy eaters and all puffers need to be fed shelled food items on a regular basis for their ever growing beak.
 
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surfinusa

Guest
at one look at it i could tell it was some type of bur fish because it's head was so square :thinking:
 
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surfinusa

Guest
it looks like he has ick but with black spots instead of white
 

boalgf

Member
Latin name for porcupine puffer is Diodon holacanthus. This is Diodon hystrix, spotted burrfish. No confusion at all.
This fish gets to 36" long so the only way I think this would be ok in 300 is if the tank is at least 36" wide, at least. Most 300 gallons are around 24" or 30". It would be sad if the puffer went his adult life never being able to turn left or right. I have a porcupine puffer (Diodon holacanthus) and he uses every bit of his body size while turning.
 

aw2

Active Member
Originally Posted by promisetbg
You could do it easy in a 300. Keep in mind that they are messy eaters and all puffers need to be fed shelled food items on a regular basis for their ever growing beak.

Considering that Diodon hystrix will reach 36" in length, a 300gal. would NOT be ok. Even a 300gal. that's 36" wide, as boalgf suggested, would still not work.
Even something on the scale of 600gal. would not work, IMO.
 

promisetbg

Active Member
I was thinking something in the order of 18"...wow you guys are right.Man they do get huge.There was one here for the longest time at a chain type pet store.It was so sad..he would always have a beaten up nose as he was in such cramped quarters..and would push it up against the glass.Is'nt it sad to think of how many there are in small tanks.
 

boalgf

Member
My original post stated that they get to 3 feet... Is this thing on?
Here's a pic of a few down in Charleston. They are monsters.
 

johnbob

Member
Thanks you all for your help. After reading the last few posts I think I'll leave this fish in the wild.
 

ophiura

Active Member
Originally Posted by boalgf
Latin name for porcupine puffer is Diodon holacanthus. This is Diodon hystrix, spotted burrfish. No confusion at all.

Were my confusion comes from:
Fishbase has this: "Spot fin porcupine fish" for Diodon hystrix
http://fishbase.org/Summary/speciesS...esname=hystrix
And Diodon holocanthus as the "long spined porcupinefish" Basically I am not familiar with the different names used for these in the hobby. I'll definitely admit that

Regardless, it is an issue of semantics in the end. I totally agree it is not an appropriate fish to keep.
 

smallfry

Member
I think its a shame they sell any porcupine puffers. When I first started with salt water the LFS was going to sell me one for my 37g. :hilarious
I dive all the time in s. florida and let me tell you these things get BIG.
I would not recomend one at all.
 
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