Need advice setting up a filtration system

[stdreb27]

I dunno if the filter sox will work... If it gets sucked into the tube then you've got problems. It might, but it may take some experimentation to work. And sponges won't get sucked into the setup. Either way if you don't clean them with regularity your going to have detrius build up and it will effect your water quality.

 

[trish&dave]

Well I got the plumbing glued and everything is ready to go, just nervous about actually firing it up! Call it inexperience with plumbing, or just chicken!

I am going to get a more experienced reefer to come to the house and evaluate the work so far and help with the refugium. Everything has been transitioned from the 56 gallon and I will post some updated pictures of the tank later this evening.
Thanks to everyone who contributed, it has been a great help! In the end I think I am going to get some local experience for the final set up. Too much money invested to make a mistake!

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by trish&dave
http:///forum/post/2677306
Well I got the plumbing glued and everything is ready to go, just nervous about actually firing it up! Call it inexperience with plumbing, or just chicken!

I am going to get a more experienced reefer to come to the house and evaluate the work so far and help with the refugium. Everything has been transitioned from the 56 gallon and I will post some updated pictures of the tank later this evening.
Thanks to everyone who contributed, it has been a great help! In the end I think I am going to get some local experience for the final set up. Too much money invested to make a mistake!
So at least post a couple pictures!

 

[trish&dave]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2677318
So at least post a couple pictures!
I will as soon as I get home tonight

 

[trish&dave]

Sorry, a little delayed. Here are some pictures. Feedback would be appreciated on set up and the CL. Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions on how to fix the micro bubbles coming from my sump!

 

[stdreb27]

Have you isolated the microbubbles to the sump?
I would suggest trying a filter micron sock, those knock down the bubbles. If not there is a leak or you are using too strong of a pump.

 

[trish&dave]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2679096
Have you isolated the microbubbles to the sump?
I would suggest trying a filter micron sock, those knock down the bubbles. If not there is a leak or you are using too strong of a pump.
Yes because that is the only thing running right now. The pump running the sump has a slow leak, that is why we got a new Dart. I guess if there is a leak, that is probably where the air is getting in!

I was not thinking about that because it has not leaked over the last week or so.
Will the bubbles hurt anything until I can get the refugium hooked up this weekend? My anemone is not looking all that well, would not eat.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by trish&dave
http:///forum/post/2679107
Yes because that is the only thing running right now. The pump running the sump has a slow leak, that is why we got a new Dart. I guess if there is a leak, that is probably where the air is getting in!

I was not thinking about that because it has not leaked over the last week or so.
Will the bubbles hurt anything until I can get the refugium hooked up this weekend? My anemone is not looking all that well, would not eat.
So you have everything running off of one pump?

 

[trish&dave]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2679177
So you have everything running off of one pump?
No the closed loop is not running, just sitting there with a brand new pump ready to go! I am just extremely nervous starting it because this is my first major experiment with plumbing. Plus I want to get my refugium going as well. So I am trying to find a local reefer with experience to help.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Originally Posted by trish&dave
http:///forum/post/2679182
No the closed loop is not running, just sitting there with a brand new pump ready to go! I am just extremely nervous starting it because this is my first major experiment with plumbing. Plus I want to get my refugium going as well. So I am trying to find a local reefer with experience to help.
Grab a mop and bucket and put it on standby.Make sure your valves are opened and give her a quick bump...see what happens.You will be surprised how quiet and efficient the Dart is.
Oh yeah and have some saltwater made up ,because the plumbing is going to use up some water.

 

[stdreb27]

So the sump in the first post is your sump for this tank? I'd try putting some micron filters on and see how that does, if not I'd cut into your line and t it back into the sump or maybe your fuge. Because I'd think you are probably running too much flow through that setup.

 

[trish&dave]

Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2679189
Grab a mop and bucket and put it on standby.Make sure your valves are opened and give her a quick bump...see what happens.You will be surprised how quiet and efficient the Dart is.
Oh yeah and have some saltwater made up ,because the plumbing is going to use up some water.
Will I need to syphon it or will it just pull the water through? Right after getting the plumbing set up, I took a big draw, and WOW

what a glue rush!

Unfortunately a mop wont help! On berber carpet. You recommend saltwater versus replacing with RODI?

 

[veni vidi vici]

Originally Posted by trish&dave
http:///forum/post/2679196
Will I need to syphon it or will it just pull the water through? Right after getting the plumbing set up, I took a big draw, and WOW

what a glue rush!

Unfortunately a mop wont help! On berber carpet. You recommend saltwater versus replacing with RODI?
As soon as i opened my valves the plumbing filled up to the top of my tank.Fired up the dart and it took care of all the air that remained pronto..Yes your going to need to add some Saltwater because your plumbing has added volume to you total gallons.Adding RO/DI will lower your SG.

 

[stdreb27]

If you still smell glue in your piping and it is strong I'd wait a little while longer for your glue to cure.

 

[trish&dave]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2679192
So the sump in the first post is your sump for this tank? I'd try putting some micron filters on and see how that does, if not I'd cut into your line and t it back into the sump or maybe your fuge. Because I'd think you are probably running too much flow through that setup.
Yes, that is the only thing right now. Looking at the pictures, the three way splitter is running off the dart with one 90 then going through the wall and splitting to the two overflows and a middle one that is closed off right now b/c it REALLY causes bubbles. The overflows are regulated to reduce the flow, plus the overflows in the tank are "y'ed" with 12" and 6" loc-lines.

 

[trish&dave]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2679202
If you still smell glue in your piping and it is strong I'd wait a little while longer for your glue to cure.
That was on Friday, have not checked it since. I will check it now, Veni is getting me pumped up to try and fire the other dart.

Would either of you see anything wrong with shutting the sump down to prevent the bubbles or just leave it running and restrict the flow?

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by trish&dave
http:///forum/post/2679213
That was on Friday, have not checked it since. I will check it now, Veni is getting me pumped up to try and fire the other dart.

Would either of you see anything wrong with shutting the sump down to prevent the bubbles or just leave it running and restrict the flow?
oh yeah, I'd try it, what is the work that could happen you pump a few gallons on the floor. Go for it!
The problem with restricting flow is that it hurts your pump. That is why T-ing the return line back into the return chamber in your sump can be a good idea. But when testing the other system I'd turn it off to see how your other system works.

 

[trish&dave]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2679225
oh yeah, I'd try it, what is the work that could happen you pump a few gallons on the floor. Go for it!
The problem with restricting flow is that it hurts your pump. That is why T-ing the return line back into the return chamber in your sump can be a good idea. But when testing the other system I'd turn it off to see how your other system works.
I thought I had read that it is ok to restrict as long as it is after the outflow.

If I turn off the system it will drain the water to fill the plumbing and probably drop below some of the loc-line's. Plus I will need the extra water that is in the sump. I am going to go mix some saltwater just in case.

 

[natclanwy]

You can restrict the discharge of a pump to a certain extent with harming the pump, the drawback to restricting the pump is you increase the heat generated by the pump and transfered to the water column. The big think is you don't want to deadhead the pump that is bad and will cause a pump to fail fairly quickly.
Where are the bubbles coming from? Are they suspended in the water column of the sump or are they introduced inside of the plumbing somewhere?

 

[trish&dave]

Originally Posted by natclanwy
http:///forum/post/2679819
You can restrict the discharge of a pump to a certain extent with harming the pump, the drawback to restricting the pump is you increase the heat generated by the pump and transfered to the water column. The big think is you don't want to deadhead the pump that is bad and will cause a pump to fail fairly quickly.
Where are the bubbles coming from? Are they suspended in the water column of the sump or are they introduced inside of the plumbing somewhere?
They are introduced inside the plumbing somewhere. I went ahead and pretty much opened everything up. The flow is strong, but not enough to overflow the tank. So I am going to see how that goes. I also took off the "y" split on the loc-lines going into the water to see if that might be where the air is being introduced.