need help ick BAB

u mike

Member
my tank has bad case of ick , I just posted but put in wrong place, anyhow lost 4 of 7 fish in week now we noticed the tang is icked out . going to make a hospital now . but what to do with serpant , urchin , crab, mushroom , starpolop starfish , in affected tank. any chemicals to use .i am going to put 3 reaming fish in hospital . was using a chemical called ick - attack in dt . please give as much info as possible , last time I had a case of ick was 3 years ago all fish were dead so I was told to just leave tank run with no lights and nothing in it . Now i have more to take care of . all advice is needed.
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
I would suggest hyposalinity. Take a look at the info on this in the FAQ Topic, stickied to the top of this forum.
 

u mike

Member
Originally Posted by Beth
http:///forum/post/3049297
I would suggest hyposalinity. Take a look at the info on this in the FAQ Topic, stickied to the top of this forum.
read what you said also I made a fresh batch of water so when i take from dt I will have water to add back , question i have is what number salinty to make first batch to start lowering dt.
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
When I perform hypo, I always do 1 or 2 points per every few hours. The slower the change the better.
You could always put your inverts in a rubbermaid tub while you are doing hypo on the display tank.
 

u mike

Member
Originally Posted by lion_crazz
http:///forum/post/3049309
When I perform hypo, I always do 1 or 2 points per every few hours. The slower the change the better.
You could always put your inverts in a rubbermaid tub while you are doing hypo on the display tank.
i started to make a hospital do i put inverts in hosp or fish ?
what one is safer for inverts because at this point they are more important (dont take that the wrong way, all are important ) but the 2 of 3 reaming fish are the agressive ones .
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by u mike
http:///forum/post/3049334
i started to make a hospital do i put inverts in hosp or fish ?
what one is safer for inverts because at this point they are more important (dont take that the wrong way, all are important ) but the 2 of 3 reaming fish are the agressive ones .
The problem with moving the fish is that the tank will not be cycled. An uncycled tank can be more lethal to sick fish than the disease that you are trying to cure. The inverts do not give off much of a bio-load and will have the rock in with them to handle any that they do give off. The fish will not have that luxury being that the rock cannot go into treatment with the fish.
 

old joe

New Member
Yep, the problem with reef keeping is not having an Ich outbreak but keeping a reef tank with expensive, showy, beautiful fish like tangs.
I've been keeping salt water fish for almost 40 years now and have had reef tanks for the past 20 plus years. Learning from experience, and I'm retired now and have worked in a pet store part time... fish dept. I've talked to a zillion people about there fish / tank problems.
What I'm getting at is that for a large part of aquarium keeping its our own choices which get us into trouble... such as expensive ' ornamental ' fish in a reef tank.
We all know we can not effectively treat fish diseases while they're in with inverts. But we mix the two nonetheless... bad idea ! Ornamental fish belong in a fish only tank. Inexpensive ' write-off ' type reef fishes belong in a reef tank.
When disease breaks out in a reef tank with ornamental, expensive fish in it we never net up the fish and move them to a hospital tank... the whole tank needs treatment but we can not possibly subject our corals and inverts to about the only thing that'll effectively check Ich... and thats copper.
Also, a reef tank is more than corals and inverts... there's myriads of tiny creatures lurking in the shadows which all add to the life and the joy of the reef tank. So now what ?
If I were you, I'd start a second tank with the fish only... after cycling, I'd put in all my fish from the reef tank and leave it alone... enjoy it as is for a time and add inexpensive reef fish to the first tank... but showy, ornamental, expensive, beautiful fish rightly belong in a fish only tank since they are biologically a world apart from corals and inverts .
After I'd start up a fish only tank and am satisfied everyone is cured, I would then add some live corals to the ' fish only ' tank. That would give me nice flexibility in having an option I do not have with keeping just one tank.
In review... the first reef tank has common, inexpensive reef fish which, if disease breaks out, they are expendable. No treatment to be given by reason of chemical additives... just keep a high end UV light going... even a diatom filter.
The second tank would be a fish only tank with high end, expensive fish and no corals... never put in inverts. A few easy move corals could be added for show but at least I have the option of moving the few corals to my first reef tank should disease break out... then I could treat with copper.
Anyway, conscience tells me to blame myself for keeping a reef tank with expensive fish... fish and corals are biologically worlds apart and should the fish catch disease it is a complete hassle to treat them effectively... everything outside of copper is nothing more than snake oil.
 
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