Need some help!
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silverado61
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I wonder if he treats dogs and cats that way too. Like they're expendable.
newtofish1994
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Originally Posted by jay0705 http:///t/397223/need-some-help#post_3539887
Excellent another example of why every state should have the death penalty. Twits like u!
This is a great example of an old fashioned communist. Are you saying I a human should be killed because you don't agree with the words I am conveying to you? Well admitting that on a public forum is far more disturbing then having any lack of empathy towards fish.
You live in new York, one of the most liberal woo-ha states right after California. You can't even defend yourself in your own home without worrying about doing 10 - 15 years in prison so I think you can settle down with the death threats because I'm not scared.
I understand you people think I am different then you, but I am not. Your fish do not love you or feel grateful towards you, you are their captor and they your pet. Now get off your high horses and grow up. This is a standard method of cycling that has been done thousands of times by professional enthusiasts in this world and the world over.
See I actually respect the fish because at least the fish have more dignity then some of you people ( jay in particular )
That fish isn't pretending, the fish isn't analyzing or judging and most of them mind their own business just eating, pooping, and sleeping day after day. Why don't you do humanity a solid and do the same Jay because your input is unnecessary and illogical. You are thinking with your soul not with your brain.
Emotions can be a dangerous game, I'd learn to keep yours in check.
Originally Posted by jay0705 http:///t/397223/need-some-help#post_3539887
Excellent another example of why every state should have the death penalty. Twits like u!
This is a great example of an old fashioned communist. Are you saying I a human should be killed because you don't agree with the words I am conveying to you? Well admitting that on a public forum is far more disturbing then having any lack of empathy towards fish.
You live in new York, one of the most liberal woo-ha states right after California. You can't even defend yourself in your own home without worrying about doing 10 - 15 years in prison so I think you can settle down with the death threats because I'm not scared.
I understand you people think I am different then you, but I am not. Your fish do not love you or feel grateful towards you, you are their captor and they your pet. Now get off your high horses and grow up. This is a standard method of cycling that has been done thousands of times by professional enthusiasts in this world and the world over.
See I actually respect the fish because at least the fish have more dignity then some of you people ( jay in particular )
That fish isn't pretending, the fish isn't analyzing or judging and most of them mind their own business just eating, pooping, and sleeping day after day. Why don't you do humanity a solid and do the same Jay because your input is unnecessary and illogical. You are thinking with your soul not with your brain.
Emotions can be a dangerous game, I'd learn to keep yours in check.
scottbert
Member
Wow, I usually come in this forum and "escape" into the fish world...this thread makes me feel like I am at work lol.
Anyhow, newtofish1994, you came on this site looking for help...remember your first post? What you got was damn good advice, that in the end saves money, which makes us all happy (no matter how rich or poor, everyone likes to save money, and no one likes to see $30 floating on the top of their tank or stuck to the filter in the morning...forget the fact that it's a fish...it's $30! Now, going by your user name I'd peg you at 19-20 yrs old, which means you probably haven't worked for a dime yet and don't respect the dollar and how hard some need to work for it).
However, your tank, your choice, just remember that posting on a public site will get you all opinions, and barking back at those that only want to see you (and your fish) succeed, won't get you very far, and you'll be left banging your head against the wall spending dollar after dollar at your LFS to get your tank stable (they will love you and give you great advise I'm sure).
Oh, and a 10g tank is a great size to start with. For you, I think the smaller the tank the better.
Enjoy!
Anyhow, newtofish1994, you came on this site looking for help...remember your first post? What you got was damn good advice, that in the end saves money, which makes us all happy (no matter how rich or poor, everyone likes to save money, and no one likes to see $30 floating on the top of their tank or stuck to the filter in the morning...forget the fact that it's a fish...it's $30! Now, going by your user name I'd peg you at 19-20 yrs old, which means you probably haven't worked for a dime yet and don't respect the dollar and how hard some need to work for it).
However, your tank, your choice, just remember that posting on a public site will get you all opinions, and barking back at those that only want to see you (and your fish) succeed, won't get you very far, and you'll be left banging your head against the wall spending dollar after dollar at your LFS to get your tank stable (they will love you and give you great advise I'm sure).
Oh, and a 10g tank is a great size to start with. For you, I think the smaller the tank the better.
Enjoy!
newtofish1994
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Originally Posted by jay0705 http:///t/397223/need-some-help/20#post_3539894
Oh buddy. I live in ny yes do I agree w its politics? Hell no. 2nd. There where no death threats, simply stating twisted people such as yourself is why we need the death penalty, which by the way ny does have. One of the few things I do agree w in ny!
This is the last post I will be submitting that isn't 100% about fish and I'd recommend you to do the same jay, but what you don't understand is even in the court of law there is such a thing as implication.
You're smart enough to understand this I'm sure and i'm still not understanding why people like me are a good reason for the death penalty, I can think of many more reasons for the death penalty, I hardly think fish-in cycling your tank is one of them. I am talking about a Fish here man, In my opinion a person could kill 10000 fish and still that person does not deserve to die. It is not for you to judge when another person should die and that sir is much more " manson " like then me.
Once again at least a fish does not hold such self entitlement that humans such as yourself do. I also wanted to take the time to thank scott and I appreciate a post actually on topic for a change
Originally Posted by jay0705 http:///t/397223/need-some-help/20#post_3539894
Oh buddy. I live in ny yes do I agree w its politics? Hell no. 2nd. There where no death threats, simply stating twisted people such as yourself is why we need the death penalty, which by the way ny does have. One of the few things I do agree w in ny!
This is the last post I will be submitting that isn't 100% about fish and I'd recommend you to do the same jay, but what you don't understand is even in the court of law there is such a thing as implication.
You're smart enough to understand this I'm sure and i'm still not understanding why people like me are a good reason for the death penalty, I can think of many more reasons for the death penalty, I hardly think fish-in cycling your tank is one of them. I am talking about a Fish here man, In my opinion a person could kill 10000 fish and still that person does not deserve to die. It is not for you to judge when another person should die and that sir is much more " manson " like then me.
Once again at least a fish does not hold such self entitlement that humans such as yourself do. I also wanted to take the time to thank scott and I appreciate a post actually on topic for a change
jay0705
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I do kill fish to eat! What u dont seem to get is the implication u sir are sending out. The fact u have no respect for animal life is a direct correlation w your own mental stabilty. Do sum research into how many serial killers abused animals first. Almost all! Now u refer to me as a commy and then tell me to watch what I say!!!!!!!! Your either a kid or brain dead
newtofish1994
Member
So anyone who fish-in cycles their tanks is a serial killer? rofl
I'm not asking for you to take a psychology course before your posts but using the resources around you would be a good start.
Once again enough spamming my thread with off topic junk.
I'm not asking for you to take a psychology course before your posts but using the resources around you would be a good start.
Once again enough spamming my thread with off topic junk.
newtofish1994
Member
Lack of empathy for fish means nothing.
However even lack of empathy on a larger scale does not indicate a " serial killer. "
The fish will serve a purpose, and that purpose will be to entertain me while cycling my tank thus serving not just one purpose but two. I will make sure I do it right and no fish will parish, and if one does it will be for good reason, not for sport or for thrills.
Plenty of good people don't get their panties in a bunch about things.
You would of had to of actually gone to college, take an actual college course to even begin to understand what I am talking about but ok, keep spamming away as I'm surprised the moderator has not shut down this entire thread thanks to yourself.
I plan to cycle the tank with a fish, or 2 smaller size fish.
I also may be given a 40 gallon tank for free, which I will probably repeat this process but on a larger scale with cheaper fish ( probably 4. )
However even lack of empathy on a larger scale does not indicate a " serial killer. "
The fish will serve a purpose, and that purpose will be to entertain me while cycling my tank thus serving not just one purpose but two. I will make sure I do it right and no fish will parish, and if one does it will be for good reason, not for sport or for thrills.
Plenty of good people don't get their panties in a bunch about things.
You would of had to of actually gone to college, take an actual college course to even begin to understand what I am talking about but ok, keep spamming away as I'm surprised the moderator has not shut down this entire thread thanks to yourself.
I plan to cycle the tank with a fish, or 2 smaller size fish.
I also may be given a 40 gallon tank for free, which I will probably repeat this process but on a larger scale with cheaper fish ( probably 4. )
jay0705
Well-Known Member
Ha ha ha ha ha ha you see mr whacko. This thread has crossed no boundaries hence why its an active thread. Your personal mental heath is not reason enough to shut it down. As for bunched panties aside from yours. Show me one person that agrees w u on how to cycle ur tank?
newtofish1994
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Originally Posted by trigger40 http:///t/397223/need-some-help#post_3539814
p.s. and whatever you do do not add your fish untill the cloudeness has completly disapated and have waited a full day or two after the water has cleared then you may add your fish onec you have tested your water chemistry and every thing is good and i am asuming you havent cycld your tank yet because you are adding sand so all you can put in ther is damzels.
(they help cycle your tank and be carful with damzels they can become your worst nightmare because they are so mean, so get the true yellow tail its the calmist)
The first poster trigger40 is where I got the idea from.
He agrees with me. And even if he didn't, I just wanted opinions.. I don't blindly follow any recommendation... unlike yourself.
Originally Posted by trigger40 http:///t/397223/need-some-help#post_3539814
p.s. and whatever you do do not add your fish untill the cloudeness has completly disapated and have waited a full day or two after the water has cleared then you may add your fish onec you have tested your water chemistry and every thing is good and i am asuming you havent cycld your tank yet because you are adding sand so all you can put in ther is damzels.
(they help cycle your tank and be carful with damzels they can become your worst nightmare because they are so mean, so get the true yellow tail its the calmist)
The first poster trigger40 is where I got the idea from.
He agrees with me. And even if he didn't, I just wanted opinions.. I don't blindly follow any recommendation... unlike yourself.
newtofish1994
Member
Well he seems smarter then you.
I'll go with his advice.
I'll go with his advice.
geridoc
Well-Known Member
newtofish1994: I'm going to return this thread to its purpose - getting your tank going. The web site you gave as a source for your fish-iin cycling is way off base, IMHO. First of all, it is a freshwater site, not marine, and the systems are different, and rely on different kinds of filtration. Secondly, they guy says that only new aquariasts insist on fishless cycling, but this is not so. I have been keeping marine systems for almost 40 years with great success, and I know what I am doing (I have a Ph.D. in animal physiology). Using damsels to cycle a tank creates two problems. 1) as I have said, it is unnecessarily cruel and painful to the fish, and 2) damsels are horrible fish (if any fish "deserves" to have its gills burned, it would be damsels) that become very territorial and will kill later additions to the tank. They will even attack your hand, and draw blood. They are also very clever, and virtually impossible to remove from the tank since they hide well, and you eventually have to remove all of the lr to get to the fish. Don't do it. If you add enough live rock that is in good shape (bought from a nearby lfs and transported wet to your tank) it will have sufficient bacteria present to produce a soft cycle - that is, a single fish will not produce an ammonium spike, and you can add additional fish every couple of weeks without problem. Since you are talking about a 10 gallon tank, you won;t be adding more than one additional fish at most. Be aware that the only tank more difficult to maintain is a 5 gallon system since these very small tanks are very unstable, and the key to success in marine fishkeeping is water stability. Most of us consider a 10 gallon tank to be the hardware equivalent of a moorish idol - "expert only". Your best bet is to be a little patient since in my nearly 40 years of fishkeeping I don't think I have ever seen anything good happen to a tank that was rushed.
silverado61
Well-Known Member
Ok nut job. Look at all your posts. If u can read and its not just fish cycling you refer too. If ubpay attention iam NOT the only person that took it this way either
+1 But I'm at work so I'll reply later. I don't have the time say what's on my mind right this minute.
+1 But I'm at work so I'll reply later. I don't have the time say what's on my mind right this minute.