New-b needs help

hkboy404

New Member
Hi all,
I have been raising freshwater fish for about 8yrs. Now it's time for the real deal! I'm planning on setting up a 55g. Do i need to put in live rocks &/or sand? I just want fishes in the tank w/ a bare bottom. Is this possible??? I dont mind the live rocks but i want it to stay a bare bottom tank. All help and advice is appreciated.
thanks in advance,
hon
 

dougai

Active Member
live rock help the tank but some small pieces in the back on the bottom should be what you do if you dont want any
yes go with live sand... or if you like the crushed coral look better, then try that
 
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jdragunas

Guest
bare bottom tanks are ok, IMO, but having sand looks much better. If you want to start out with a bare bottom, you can always add sand later if you want.
I strongly suggest having LR, as it is a supplemental form of filtration. It also supplies the fish with places to hide. If you don't want LR, you should have some fake decorations where they can hide. If you decide to not get LR, you MUST have a really good filter, to make up for the lack of LR.
Hope this helps!!!
Jenn
 

hedonic

Member
Bare bottom tanks are okay, but live rock is essential. The two usually work in tandem, breaking down organic waste and eventually converting it nitrates, a process you should know from your freshwater dealings. A deep sand bed can give you anaerobic bacteria that is very helpful in the final stages of the nitrogen cycle. Just be carefull on the livestock you select because many need a sand bed to thrive. You may also want to consider adding livesand in the form of a refugium, you will get many many of the benifits of live sand and still have a barebottom look. Personally, after a tank is established and there is no ugly algae, detritus, or the like covering the sand bed, I find it more asthetically pleasing, but that is subjective. If you want to consider Live Sand I can tell you of some of the other benifits.
 

hkboy404

New Member
thanks for the info dougai, jdragunas, & hedonic.
if i was to add live sand how thick does the bed have to be??? and will that mess up my w/d pump.
just to give you guys/gals a heads up on my equipment and setup.
55g
w/d filter
uv sterilizer
titanium 300w heater
jbj compact light
do i need a protein skimmer also???
when i do run the tank do i add the live rocks and sand at the same time or do i let the salt water run first for a couple of days and then add the live rocks and live sand???
hon
 
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jdragunas

Guest
I would say if you want only fish, the protien skimmer isn't necessary, but it is a major PLUS!!! You should see all of the stuff it pulls out of my tank, and i have a fish only. I can't imagine what my tank would look like if i didn't have one...
When i setup my tank, i added the water, then let it run for a day (to make sure it's properly aerated & the salinity levels are good), then i added the LR FIRST, and the sand SECOND!!! This is important. The LR should be on the bottom of the tank, and then add the sand around it. You don't have to add all of the LR before the sand, just the pieces on the bottom. This make your system much more sturdy. If you eventually get a fish that burrows, you'll be happy you did this, as burrowing fish + LR on sand = a lot of falling rocks, and possibly squished fishies... don't want that. You can add the LR and sand all on the same day, just put the LR first.
Also, i have a 2" sand bed. This is perfect for your display, i think, but this is a controversial matter. Some people say a deep sand bed (5-6"), and other say a shallow(2-3"). Here's what's up with that. A deep sand bed (DSB) holds more of the bacteria that processes your ammonia, and therefore keeps your levels in check. However, a DSB holds the nitrates in, and therefore, if it is stirred or moved, it will release those nitrate pockets, and cause a spike in your nitrates, which can be potentially deadly. For this reason, i chose to keep a shallow sandbed. As long as you have enough filtration, you will be fine with this.
Just a quick question, what type of w/d filter do you have, and what's the rating on it (meaning what size tank is it designed to filter)? I have a 55 gallon tank as well, and my w/d is a 75 gallon filter. This makes sure i have enough filtration, as a 55 gallon filter is adequate, but a 75 is much better (and allows me to keep more fish)!
Jenn
 
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