new guy looking for starter info

schippy

Member
I am looking to start a saltwater tank with some reef and some fish. I was wondering if anyone can sugest a minimum size tank to use for this. Also since I really no nothing about the workings of a salt water tank, If someone could give me a idea of the parts i will need to purchase and approximately the $$ i will have to spend to get it up and running. I am going to go to my local store that speciallizes in salt water tanks but I want to make sure I am not taken for a ride there. I apreciate any input on these maters and any other tips for a beginner.
Thanks!!
 
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thomas712

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Welcome to the board Schippy :)
I would recommend one or more of the following books.
Book of Coral Propagation, Volume 1: Reef Gardening for Aquarists - Anthony Rosario Calfo
Reef Fishes Volume 1 - Scott W. Michael
Corals: A Quick Reference Guide (Oceanographic Series) - Julian Sprung
The Conscientious Marine Aquarist: A Commonsense Handbook for Successful Saltwater Hobbyists - Robert M. Fenner
The New Marine Aquarium: Step-By-Step Setup & Stocking Guide - Michael S. Paletta
Aquarium Corals : Selection, Husbandry, and Natural History - Eric H. Borneman
Natural Reef Aquariums: Simplified Approaches to Creating Living Saltwater Microcosms - John H. Tullock
Aquarium Corals by Eric H. Borneman,
Natural Reef Aquariums by John H. Tullock, Martin A. Moe
The New Marine Aquarium by Michael S. Paletta,
http://www.simplifiedreefkeeping.com/faq/faq.htm
http://www.reefcorner.com/reef%20keeping_101.htm
Do yourself a favor and find some of those books and read on this forum daily no matter what the post, if you don't understand at first you will later on. Do searches on different subjects by using the search button.
Hope some of that helps you out
 

austinreef

Member
Good luck to you with your setup!
I started from scatch about 3 weeks ago with a new tank (50g), canopy, oak stand. With all the equipment, books, test kits, LR (65lbs), LS(60lbs), chemicals, I have easy over $1000.00 in it so far, with out any critters! I suppose if you get a used setup from someone, it would be a bit cheaper.
AR
 

pocaseint

New Member
My first suggestion would be to buy a book entitled the "The Marine Aquarist." This is an excellent resource. That being said, the phrase you'll keep hearing the most is "water quality, water quality." Reef setups require exacting standards. Excessive temperature or Ph variations will spell doom quite quickly.
The minimum size should be at least 40 gallons. In terms of equipment, you'll need the tank and stand of course. You'll also need bio-filtration of some kind. Another piece of equipment that's vital is a protein skimmer. Now one way to go is to have a wet-dry filter, a protein skimmer, a cannister filter, and a pump to push all that water through. This will help ensure that you at least start off on the right foot. Last but not least, you'll need to have the correct lighting. Too much or too little could have disasterous effects.
In terms of money, plan on at least $1,500 for the equipment (e.g., tank, stand, skimmer, filter, pump, etc.). You can spend a lot more, but I would think it would be hard to get by for a whole lot less. For price comparisons, check your local dealer against the various internet stores. The dealer should be comparable. You might expect to pay a small premium if the dealer has excellent service.
 

beaslbob

Well-Known Member
welcome to the board and I want to second the posts here especially buying books and doing a lot of reading.
To keep fish you basically need a tank and source of light. beyond that a substrait and a good growth of algae buffers and filters the water to support fish. Anything beyond that is to help support more livestock or make the tank pleasing to the people watching the fish. Therefore, i recommend that whatever you do, is establish a balanced stable system using as much macro algae as you can.
Approximate costs: 55g tank & stand ~$200-250. lighting i recommend at least two 4' flourescent lights. fixture ~$8 lights ~4 home depot. Sand: playsand ~ 5.00. Salt $20. macro algae ask around until you get it free from other hobbiests.
the filter I use cost about $80 and is a hang on back. A powerhead could be used just circulate the water.
From there the sky is the limit. for instance, you can build a refuguim with sump for several hundred dollars or just have a tupperware container to culture you macro algae in. You can also spend hundreds of dollars on live rock/live sand or use less expensive means.
Again welcome to this hobby and if you need more elaboration my email in beaslbob@aol.com
 

pocaseint

New Member
One question that needs to be answered by a reef enthusiast is how much time they're willing to spend on taking care of their reef? If you're dedicated, then you can get by with a lot less cash going out the door. Frequent water changes means you don't have to spend as much on filtration. Getting other equipment used is a good idea too. I guess the one thing that pops up in my mind is "either spend the money now or spend it later." Your livestock can get quite pricey so spending more upfront means you'll have less to spend later on replenishing livestock that has died off.
 

sagxman

Member
The smaller you go the cheaper the cost, but don't let that fool you. The smaller you go, the more difficult to maintain. I started with a 20gal. but I had a roommate that had a lot of experience with SW and was able to guide me quite a bit. If you don't have the expertise around, I would go with at least a 55gal. Don't skimp on lights if you can help it. If you go cheap, you'll want to upgrade shortly and you'll have waisted the money on the initial lighting.
My bigest tip from my little bit of experience is TAKE YOUR TIME. Don't rush things. Good luck.
 

cb

Member
Welcome to the board and the wonderful world of saltwater ownership. I too am fairly new to saltwater tanks. I was lucky and have a friend that has had a saltwater tank for many years and helped me get set up. I have also learned alot from this board. So I would sugesst like all the others before me to please do alot of research before you do anything else it will mean the difference between it being a joy or it being a very bad experience. Good Luck with your new hobby:)
 
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