New Hobbyist Question: Aqua-scaping

shawnriv

Member
Hey All,
This is my first post and I'm an amateur saltwater tank hobbyist. My mother owns a 48 gallon saltwater tank and was assembled four weeks ago with all the proper equipment recommended by the pet store. As of now we own two clownfish and I'll be purchasing her a yellow tang and a sea anemone for Christmas. Everything has been going very well but my mother is looking for the tank to become a little more colorful and fuller. Right now there is four medium size pieces of dry rock in the tank. Unfortunately we are not interested in live rock because it's very expensive ($8.99/lbs at my local store). Does anyone recommend any other alternative ways to fill the tank and add color. I have posted a picture of our tank. Thank you for responses in advanced.
 

grant778

Member
I would say get 1 piece of live rock and then get the rest dry rock. Dry rock is cheap and will become live. If seeded with the live rock the dry rock will get coralline algae on it after a bit too. The coralline algae comes in different colors but is most commonly purple and will cover all the rocks and add a lot of color to the tank. About that yellow tang, tangs need swimming room and a yellow tang is no exception. I don't think this size tank would meet the requirements it needs space wise. Also, about that sea anemone, do you have the proper lighting to keep it alive? They need very powerful lighting. You would need metal halides or very powerful LED lights to sustain it. Also, anemones need lots of nutrients in order to stay alive that come from more established tanks. The tank you own has only been up and running for a little bit.
I'm going to suggest some substitutes for the fish and anemone and am assuming u have already gone through your tank cycle. If you have not, let us know and we will explain it to you.
Instead of the anemone may I suggest a mushroom coral?
They usually only need low amounts of light and come in many colors like green, red, and purple. They usually are really easy to care for too.
Fish wise, may I suggest the yellow candy hogfish? It is yellow, red, and pink and would have plenty of room in your size tank. This is the only type of hogfish that can fit in a smaller tank like this.
If that fish isn't what you want perhaps a zebra barred tilefish? It also would add some color and looks really cool too.
 

shawnriv

Member
Hi Grant,
Thank you for responding to my post. I just purchased a T5 light fixture from my local pet store ($200) and they said it's perfect for a sea anemone. I forgot to mention my tank has live sand and I've added Instant Ocean's Bio Spira; do I still need the live rock? If so, how large of a piece? I was looking to add more dry rock to make it look a little more attractive.
-Shawn
 

grant778

Member
Get one medium piece of live rock and then the rest dry rock. The live rock will seed the dry rock with good stuff and it will all become live. You need a decent amount of rock in there so that bacteria can build up to break down the waste from the fish. Judging from ur photo, probably 10 or so rocks around the size u have would be good to add including the one live rock. The live sand will also help to seed the rocks. If you don't get a piece of live rock but use all dry rock, bacteria will still build up on it to break down waste. However, dry rock won't have any coralline algae on it or organisms like amphipods. Therefore, if you don't buy any live rock to put in ur tank u won't get beautiful coralline to cover the rocks and a lot of other organisms good for ur tank.
Has ur tank gone through its cycle already?
 

flower

Well-Known Member
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Originally Posted by shawnriv http:///t/396836/new-hobbyist-question-aqua-scaping#post_3535659
Hey All,
This is my first post and I'm an amateur saltwater tank hobbyist. My mother owns a 48 gallon saltwater tank and was assembled four weeks ago with all the proper equipment recommended by the pet store. As of now we own two clownfish and I'll be purchasing her a yellow tang and a sea anemone for Christmas. Everything has been going very well but my mother is looking for the tank to become a little more colorful and fuller. Right now there is four medium size pieces of dry rock in the tank. Unfortunately we are not interested in live rock because it's very expensive ($8.99/lbs at my local store). Does anyone recommend any other alternative ways to fill the tank and add color. I have posted a picture of our tank. Thank you for responses in advanced.

Hi,

Welcome to the site! First rule...Never ask the fish store for advice on anything...Not equipment, not fish, not supplements...go into the store knowing what you want or need.

WHOA!!! You are going way too fast. First off, you have to have the tank cycle, time means nothing...have you done your tests? You need lab type not strips. In a 48g the couple of clowns are doing the cycling for you, but you need to wait for the good bacteria to populate and you need lots of rock to have enough surface area for them to build on...if you add another fish, it will spell disaster, and they all die.

So do a water test first to determine if you have ammonia or nitrite, both should be reading 0. You should have a quarantine tank set up, and that's where you add the new fish...wait 4 weeks before putting it into the display. With saltwater tanks, you can't put medicine into the display,
so the best thing is to not introduce disease or parasites in the first place. Otherwise if the fish gets a parasite such as ich...you have to remove every fish from the display to a hospital tank to treat with medicine or hypo....and leave the display empty for 8 weeks for the parasite to die off without a host. That can all be avoided by using a quarantine for all new arrivals.

Next issue is the desire for an anemone, those critters need a very well established tank. Wait 6 months to a year for the tank to mature. Next...A 48g tank is too small for any tang. I know it sounds like a big tank, but it's really very small. The yellow tang needs at least a 75g tank, and all the others go up from there.

You need your rock to go midway up the tank...you can mix dried and live rock, but you do need live rock. A background will really make the tank look it's best. Remove the glass thermometer, if a fish hits it, it may break sending poison into the system...get the stick on the side of the tank type. You need at least 2 power heads, the wave is the life of the ocean, and your SW tank. There is less oxygen in SW then in fresh, so it's important to make sure the surface water in the tank is really moving...make it look like it's boiling.

For color you can add macroalgae, it's good for your tank because it keep the tank water pristine, and it will help with keeping the ammonia and nitrite levels away. It absorbs phosphates and nitrates to live, and when you remove the new growth (all plants grow) called harvesting, you are removing the phosphates and nitrates from the system.

I personally use decorations along with the rock, so there is plenty of surface area for the good bacteria to grow on. I just think it looks better then just rock.
 

grant778

Member
Test ammonia, nitrites and nitrates anyway. If ammonia or nitrites are above 0 do a water change. That means ur tank is cycling. If they are not above 0 I would still suggest keeping a close eye on your water parameters for the next week or two just to make sure your cycle was actually completed.
 

silverado61

Well-Known Member
It looks like your rock is sitting on top of the sand. If you plan on getting any critters or fish that dig I think you should get any rock you have to the bottom of the sand so that they won't collapse and trap/kill anything caught underneath it.

You also need one more suction cup on that heater to secure it better. If it's submersible, place it at the bottom of tank, parallel to the sand and about 2 to 3 inches above the sand. It'll help keep the temp more consistent throughout the water column.

I use a digital thermometer. It's only about $15 and well worth the cost because it's more precise. Place it at the opposite end of the tank from the heater to be more accurate. The powerheads Flower suggested will also keep the whole tank at the same temp so you won't have a cold end and a warm end.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
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Originally Posted by silverado61 http:///t/396836/new-hobbyist-question-aqua-scaping#post_3535700
It looks like your rock is sitting on top of the sand. If you plan on getting any critters or fish that dig I think you should get any rock you have to the bottom of the sand so that they won't collapse and trap/kill anything caught underneath it.



Hi,

Pictures make it hard to tell if the rock is on top or under with the sand around it.....Another reason to make sure the rock is on the glass bottom and not the sand...the sand where no circulated water hits it, can become toxic, and if ever the rock is moved (and it always will some day), it can poison the whole tank.

Silverado is right....You can't build on shifting sand....a rock slide will kill critters, and/or bust the thank.
 
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