New Mandarin Dragonet

bigntasty

New Member
I put a mandarin dragonet into my 90 gallon FOWLR tank two days ago. I bought it without knowing much about it, which I almost never do. It hasnt been eating any of the food I have been putting into the tank (flakes, pellets, frozen foods). It has been going through some of the sand and nibbling on the algae on the rocks. Is there anything else I should be feeding it?
 

geridoc

Well-Known Member
Your mandarin isn't nibbling on algae, it is simply starving to death like most of them do. Assuming yours is a wild-caught fish, the only thing it will eat is live copepods. You will need to either raise them, or buy them. If you tank is large (>100 gal, usually, very diverse and mature you might have a decent population of copepods already, and with some effort you can maintain that population while the fish eats. Alternatively, you can offer it Nutramar prawn eggs. To do this, take a small jar, like a clean (no soap, please) baby food jar, put some tank water in it and place a small amount of prawn eggs in the bottom. Then place the jar on its side, near the fish. If it is hungry enough it might enter the jar and eat some of the eggs. This is a delicate thing to do, and eventually you are going to have to train the mandarin to eat a more complete diet, but not right away, it will starve before you have a chance. Some people report that their mandarins eventually eat brine shrimp, flakes, etc, but trying to feed it those things now generally does not work. An easier solution might be to return the fish to your LFS for a refund or trade.
 

rickross23

Active Member
Your mandarin isn't nibbling on algae, it is simply starving to death like most of them do.  Assuming yours is a wild-caught fish, the only thing it will eat is live copepods.  You will need to either raise them, or buy them.  If you tank is large (>100 gal, usually, very diverse and mature you might have a decent population of copepods already, and with some effort you can maintain that population while the fish eats.  Alternatively, you can offer it Nutramar prawn eggs.  To do this, take a small jar, like a clean (no soap, please) baby food jar, put some tank water in it and place a small amount of prawn eggs in the bottom.  Then place the jar on its side, near the fish.  If it is hungry enough it might enter the jar and eat some of the eggs.  This is a delicate thing to do, and eventually you are going to have to train the mandarin to eat a more complete diet, but not right away, it will starve before you have a chance.  Some people report that their mandarins eventually eat brine shrimp, flakes, etc, but trying to feed it those things now generally does not work.  An easier solution might be to return the fish to your LFS for a refund or trade.
Return it. You don't know how to keep it, so it will likely die.
 

meowzer

Moderator
How old is your tank? Geo gave you some good tips....If your tank is not mature enough....yes....get rid of the mandarin.....you can always get one later...BUT....most will not eat other foods
 

bigntasty

New Member
My tank is about 3 years old. The only issue I have had with the tank is a on going battle with hair algae. I have already purchased some copepods to put into the the tank and to attempt to culture my own in a seperate system. How do i know if my tank already has copepods in it?
 
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smallreef

Guest
you can see them with the moonlights on if you have a plentiful amount...
most of the 'copepods' in bottles from the LFS (especially the ones in the fridge) will not proliferate in our tanks... you need to look for tisbe pods.. they will multiply in our warmer water tanks..
 

w glint

Member
You may also want to consider creating some form of a refugium for pods to multiply in. I too have been preparing to get a mandarin for my tank, so i took steps:
I got a used 20g tank off craigs list and 40 lbs of dry live rock rubble from BRS, and then tied it into my system (90g DT, 20g Sump, 10g DT).
Then i added a basic CFL 2700k bulb over the tank and ordered some macro algae from Reef Cleaners.
The fun part was, i was quite sure i didnt have any pods in my tank because i started with all dry sand, and dry rock and so on, but somewhere along the line i had some pods sneak in, and while i was waiting for my macro algae and live pods to come in the mail, i noticed at night that the glass of my tanks were SWARMING with pods. tons of them.
you could also just make a simple pile of ruble in your main tank, closely packed enough that fish cannot get into it, giving your pods somewhere to breed and continue to populate.
Just my .02
 

bigntasty

New Member
THanks for your input. I have a 20-25 gallon sump. if I set up some live rock and lights in there that may work. If pods begin to form down there how would I get them into my main tank? Would they get sucked up in my return water lines?
 

sweatervest13

Active Member
THanks for your input. I have a 20-25 gallon sump. if I set up some live rock and lights in there that may work. If pods begin to form down there how would I get them into my main tank? Would they get sucked up in my return water lines?
Yup. They just go for a ride.
 

w glint

Member
And they do survive a trip though a pump. i didnt believe it at first either, but all of my tanks have pods, so the do make it through them. also, you'll want to get some macro algae, such as cheto. its a great place for pods to thrive.
 

txenvy26

New Member
If u want to cut down ur hair alge a turbo snail or lawnmower blennie will help with that I've also been told not to poor the pods from the store straight into the tank to poor them on it filter...... Manderans are beautiful tho I'm just chicken to get one good luck :hi:
 
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