New octopus!!

aarone

Active Member
Are you crazy??? these things kill fast! Death is almost always certain unless administered artificial respiration until the poison wears off. when i did my research on these i was at a website for most deadly animals in the world. First you start to go blind...then you cant move...after that you then start to lose ability to breathe...lungs trachea BODY is paralyzed....
where did you read that waterdog?
aaron
 

scottnj

Member
I would take my chances with a stone fish long before I would a blue ring, or a cone shell. The poisons act amazingly fast.
Now the craziest thing I have seen while diving is people touching and holding a banded sea snake. Also way poisionous. They have a small mouth and are not very aggressive which is why people can touch them with little risk, but not my cup of tea.
Anyhow... a blue ring in a home tank.... just asking for trouble.
Aaron, I would love to see that cone shell video. The dart is pretty amazing. I know they have had a few deaths in Australia from people picking them up and sticking them in their pocket while shell collecting.
-Scott
 

aarone

Active Member
scott,
I will try and find it tonight. I am out the door for work right now. It was really cool footage.
aaron
 

aarone

Active Member
Scott,
Search for a thread called "cone snail eating goby" under my User name. I couldnt find the website where i originally found the video. Pretty cool shot of a conus magnus snail eating up a neon goby!:cool:
aaron
 

1journeyman

Active Member

Originally posted by waterdog
Blue Ring octos are very poisonous, but it is very rare that you would die from them. If you are bit (their bite can go through a wet suit) you just need to keep the airway open. The have a neuro toxin that could eventually paralize you, including your respiratory muscles, but a human can metabolize it so fast it almost never results in total paralysis. But, your body would react to the toxin by swelling your throat first. Even off the Great Barrier Reef, their native habitat, very few people ever die.
So, my point is that blue rings, just like stonefish or venemous snakes, can be kept with almost no risk to the owner as long as they are careful. But, we all know how stupid some people can be :rolleyes: You are all now informed :D

Hmm.. I'm not so sure about some of that info Waterdog:
"The victim might be saved if artificial respiration starts before marked cyanosis and hypotension develops. The blue-ringed octopus is the size of a golf ball but its poison is powerful enough to kill an adult human in minutes. There's no known antidote. The only treatment is hours of heart massage and artificial respiration until the poison has worked its way out of your system.
The venom contains tetrodotoxin, which blocks sodium channels and causes motor paralysis and occasionally respiratory failure. Though with fixed dilated pupils, the senses of the patients are often intact. The victims are aware but unable to respond" found on Barrierreefaustralia.com. (sorry mods for link, but it's for safety purposes).
I wouldn't try to keep Octopi in an aquarium at all. They are way too smart.
Not sure about the effects of venom, but I will say that the Blue ring octopus was specifically mentioned on my dive briefing when I was at the reef.
Aarone, I didn't realize you were in the DFW metroplex. Email me at jdixon@pipeline.com with the name of the LFS. I'd love to give them a piece of my mind as well as being sure to never shop there again!
 

waterdog

Member
Sorry guys, I got my info from a combination of a diving guide in Australia and a friend of mine from Australia who was a Paramedic and diver there. I knew that they were very poisonous but it appears that there are some misconceptions about them. I agreed with you until I talked to those two people. Of course, they could be wrong....
 
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