New Tesselata eel

[the egregious]

Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/2557394
I hate to sound harsh, but I hope you know what you have gotten into to. Tessys are known to get to 6 feet long and are notorious fish killers, the guys at WetWebMedia don't recommend this fish in anything less than 300 gallons and only with huge fish like full grown angels and Groupers...Good luck.

Fish Killers? This isn't green peace, if you feel bad for the fish people put in with their eels that get eaten, then you should get a sick horrendous feeling for those bags of 300 dead silver sides.
I have 2 Tesselatas, one juvenile, and one sub adult. My Juvenile is 3 feet long, my sub adult is 5 feet long. Never have I had my adult kill a fish he wasn't supposed to eat. My juvenile is in a reef and has been there since my two year old son was born .
The only thing he has to worry about is tank size.
people need to stop giving Tesselatas bad names, especially when they've never even owned one.

 

[kjr_trig]

Originally Posted by The Egregious
http:///forum/post/2564413
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Fish Killers? This isn't green peace, if you feel bad for the fish people put in with their eels that get eaten, then you should get a sick horrendous feeling for those bags of 300 dead silver sides.
I have 2 Tesselatas, one juvenile, and one sub adult. My Juvenile is 3 feet long, my sub adult is 5 feet long. Never have I had my adult kill a fish he wasn't supposed to eat. My juvenile is in a reef and has been there since my two year old son was born .
The only thing he has to worry about is tank size.
people need to stop giving Tesselatas bad names, especially when they've never even owned one.
Maybe you should consider yourself the exception, not the rule egregious...I see you read what I wrote, don't think you read what unleashed wrote though did you???

Some more food for thought.
From the Complete Encyclopedia of the Saltwater Aquarium by Nick Dakin...page 230
"Gymnothorax favagineus....Diet and Feeding: Will eat anything it can swallow. Predatory ambushers....Aquarium behavior: Do not keep with anthing small...Summary: This species can inflict a very painful bite, even leading to infection (and that's only for humans); just imagine encountering this predator if you were a fish! Only for the 'big tank' hobbyist or public aquariums."
Bob Fenner's The Concientious Marine Aquarist...page 191
"The larger Gymnothorax species get too big and are too aggressive and strong for all but the largest systems. If you're going to try these, watch your fingers and tankmates and secure your cover with a lock"

 

[lilgator]

The tesselata is definately not for everyone, but after seeing all the beautiful tessy pics here on the board, and other places on the web I knew I had to have one. I have a "freshwater" moray eel in my (brackish water) cichlid tank, but wanted something larger.
I'm also consiering selling off my cichlids converting the tank over to saltwater and keeping the "freshwater" moray and converting him into a full marine moray eel.
An idea for folks lookin for a smaller less aggresive eel are the freshwater eels, as mine is very docile, hardy, and dont get very big at all, I believe 2ft

 

[the egregious]

Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/2564620
Maybe you should consider yourself the exception, not the rule egregious...I see you read what I wrote, don't think you read what unleashed wrote though did you???

Some more food for thought.
From the Complete Encyclopedia of the Saltwater Aquarium by Nick Dakin...page 230
"Gymnothorax favagineus....Diet and Feeding: Will eat anything it can swallow. Predatory ambushers....Aquarium behavior: Do not keep with anthing small...Summary: This species can inflict a very painful bite, even leading to infection (and that's only for humans); just imagine encountering this predator if you were a fish! Only for the 'big tank' hobbyist or public aquariums."
Bob Fenner's The Concientious Marine Aquarist...page 191
"The larger Gymnothorax species get too big and are too aggressive and strong for all but the largest systems. If you're going to try these, watch your fingers and tankmates and secure your cover with a lock"
What exactly was I supposed to take from unleashed post?
The Gymnothorax's that I posted were only the ones that I CURRENTLY own. I have owned several Gymnothorax species, and their aggressiveness is completely exacerbated.
Why would I consider myself an exception, when I have dealt with them for so long. I have studied the habitual activities of the
Gymnothorax Funebris
Gymnothorax Favagineus
Echidna nebulosa
The eel I've kept for the SHORTEST amount of time is 2 years
and I think I know enough about their behavior to say that it is not an exception.
My neighbor 4 houses down is a big SWF buff as well and has a species only tank housing a Favagineus. He was so excited when I moved in and he found out I had an adult one as well. He asked me why mine was so docile? I went to his house and watched his wife's feeding habits of the eel and asked him how long does he wait to feed his eel?
Long story short I helped him ween his feeding schedule down and now his eel is docile as can be.
Any fish's aggressiveness can be elevated due to feeding habits, and tank mates. Sheesh, my Echidna nebulosa was way more aggressive than my Funebris was.
Saying that the larger Gymnothorax species are just too big for the house tanks is completely exaggerated. A 300 is just fine for my sub adult, why would he need a public aquarium of 30,000 gallons to support it, as well as a locked top?
Something tells me that mister Dakin did not own a 6 foot Favagineus or a 6-8 foot Funebris, to accurately say what he said. It seems that what A LOT of people like to do on here is just regurgitae from regurgitation and get offended if their regurgitation is contested.
I am sorry for being rude from my previous post, it just upsets me when people attribute aggressiveness to their own habitual feeding mistakes, when it comes to eels.

 

[kjr_trig]

Fair enough egregious...
I am really not sure why I got jumped by all the noobs on this (you not being one), all I did was ask the OP (whom is new to the site) if he knew what he was getting into. And yes, lilgator you should include info as to future plans when you make posts...i.e. if you have a Tessy and an Emperor Angel in a 110, upgrade info is important otherwise "we the forum" just think you are another careless hobbyist that jumped in the deep end without asking questions because they thought an eel was "cool" and an Angel was "pretty"....Because I assure you none of the knowledgeable people on this site (and yes I count myself in there, though I am far far behind so many here) think either of those fish should be in a 110 permanantly.
No, Egregious I have never had a Tessy, but I have looked after a Fimby and he was nasty nasty nasty, his only tankmate was a large Undulate Trigger in a 220. Tessy's certainly get larger and just as mean from everything I have read, and the reason I asked if you read Unleashed's post is because her Tessy is obviously a "Fish Killer".
We all know that not all fish are the same, I am convinced that Huma Triggers are about as aggressive as a Mandarin Goby, as I had one for 5 years that never bothered another fish, yet I have heard of Humas that were terribly aggressive....You never can tell.
As far as experts, in this hobby I will take Bob Fenner's word over anyone particularly on Angels and Eels.

 

[gonefishcrazy]

I was thinking on getting one but after hours of web searching I'm gonna pass. I won't be able to run a tank just for one fish. I love my grouper and zebra eel. I also saw a picture of a bumblebee grouper with a tessy half way down its throat. A guy told me his tessy ate his polleni grouper.

 

[the egregious]

I am happy to hear that you made the right choice in not getting something you will not be able to house efficiently. A lot of people will get something no matter what just because they look cool.