New (to me) 10g nano
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rotarymagic
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Originally Posted by Fenrir
http:///forum/post/2785295
Besides Firefish get pretty big and can actualy become terirtorial regardless if you bought them all together.
Yeah I was thinking that a firefish school is iffy... it only works as juveniles in a bigger tank...
http:///forum/post/2785295
Besides Firefish get pretty big and can actualy become terirtorial regardless if you bought them all together.
Yeah I was thinking that a firefish school is iffy... it only works as juveniles in a bigger tank...
rotarymagic
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Originally Posted by Fenrir
http:///forum/post/2785292
Yes they are a mated pair and there actualy in the tom 3 gallon not a 5 gallon. I just don't think it is a good idea to put new hobbyist thinking they can stock there tank that much. Just because a certain few got lucky doing so doesn't mean it is the right thing to do.
It's not about luck, its taking precautionary steps with regard to filtration and general upkeep (watch how much you feed at one time, water changes, exporting nutrients)
http:///forum/post/2785292
Yes they are a mated pair and there actualy in the tom 3 gallon not a 5 gallon. I just don't think it is a good idea to put new hobbyist thinking they can stock there tank that much. Just because a certain few got lucky doing so doesn't mean it is the right thing to do.
It's not about luck, its taking precautionary steps with regard to filtration and general upkeep (watch how much you feed at one time, water changes, exporting nutrients)
fenrir
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Thats my point, an experinced person will know how to do this and can push a bioload to its max safely. Starting out though you will make mistakes, regardless how careful you are. I am not trying to say your method is wrong but rather trying to keep a new hobbyist from feeling disapointed and give up because he or she made a mistake with a large bioload.
rotarymagic
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Originally Posted by Fenrir
http:///forum/post/2785388
Thats my point, an experinced person will know how to do this and can push a bioload to its max safely. Starting out though you will make mistakes, regardless how careful you are. I am not trying to say your method is wrong but rather trying to keep a new hobbyist from feeling disapointed and give up because he or she made a mistake with a large bioload.
I completely understand, I guess living on the sw frontier just seems so long ago to me that I forget to make things clear or simple sometimes.
Also, most of my tanks have crashed because I had someone that didn't keep sw tanks watch them when I was out of town..
I've come back to losing several linckias that were fine for months..
nitrates being through the roof in a system that's typically at zero (overfeeding, I always do waterchanges before I leave.)
alkalinity going from 12dKH to 22dKH in 7days lol... they don't understand the concept of measuring liquids. I just love when they ask for money after killing hundreds of $$$ in corals and livestock because of carelessness and not adhering to my strict instructions. Basically it comes down to why I'm offering a few hundred dollars to watch my stuff because I want it done right.
I also had to tear apart one of my poison dart frog tanks because it was a swamp because I guess they didn't watch while they were misting the tank... how is it so hard to follow instructions that are written out step by step?
rotarymagic
Active Member
Originally Posted by Fenrir
http:///forum/post/2785406
I know how you feel, I almost hate going on vacations. The trick is to get your friends into sw so they know what they are doing lol. Also I always leave a check board above my tanks for people to make sure they follow everyhting to the T.
Yeah I tried the checklist too... a bunch of empty boxes all three times I tried it...
http:///forum/post/2785406
I know how you feel, I almost hate going on vacations. The trick is to get your friends into sw so they know what they are doing lol. Also I always leave a check board above my tanks for people to make sure they follow everyhting to the T.
Yeah I tried the checklist too... a bunch of empty boxes all three times I tried it...
worrballer
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Anyway... to bring it back on subject.
I like my new list with 5 fish and 2 shrimp. I've been in the hobby for 2ish years but I just had a fowler, and 55g at that, so I never really had to do much.
I think if I get a new hang on filter and a good chem test kit i should be alright.
Biggest thing is to just be diligent about the testing and water changing schedule.
I like my new list with 5 fish and 2 shrimp. I've been in the hobby for 2ish years but I just had a fowler, and 55g at that, so I never really had to do much.
I think if I get a new hang on filter and a good chem test kit i should be alright.
Biggest thing is to just be diligent about the testing and water changing schedule.
rotarymagic
Active Member
So what all are you going to put in there?
worrballer
Member
2 x Firefish
2 x Neon gobies
1 x Hector's goby
1 or 2 Peppermint shrimp
10 hermit crabs
Maybe a turbo
2 x Neon gobies
1 x Hector's goby
1 or 2 Peppermint shrimp
10 hermit crabs
Maybe a turbo
worrballer
Member
how do you keep the algae in control with no hermit crabs. Would the hector's do a decent job of that?
rotarymagic
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Originally Posted by WorrBaller
http:///forum/post/2788432
how do you keep the algae in control with no hermit crabs. Would the hector's do a decent job of that?
hector's and rainford's gobies don't really eat algae, they eat pods in the algae, but they are not very precise so they may consume some algae in the process. You keep algae in control by not overfeeding... When you don't address all aspects of nutrient export, you get excessive algae.
You can have too much of a clean up crew incase you didn't know... snails poop too, crabs too, shrimp too... they all add up.
http:///forum/post/2788432
how do you keep the algae in control with no hermit crabs. Would the hector's do a decent job of that?
hector's and rainford's gobies don't really eat algae, they eat pods in the algae, but they are not very precise so they may consume some algae in the process. You keep algae in control by not overfeeding... When you don't address all aspects of nutrient export, you get excessive algae.
You can have too much of a clean up crew incase you didn't know... snails poop too, crabs too, shrimp too... they all add up.
worrballer
Member
So what you're saying is that every body poops. So the book was right!
Side note: Nutrient export is my new favorite description of pooping.
Side note: Nutrient export is my new favorite description of pooping.
worrballer
Member
Sooooo it turns out my friend was mistaken about the size of his tank.
Its a 5 gallon
. Therefore I need to think of a new list. I finally saw sexy shrimp in person and really liked them. Is it possible to get two of them in a tank with hermits and snails?
Also I could still to one fish at least right? What is an interesting fish that can be by himself?
Oh I'll get pictures soon of what it looks like so far too.
Its a 5 gallon
Also I could still to one fish at least right? What is an interesting fish that can be by himself?
Oh I'll get pictures soon of what it looks like so far too.
zanoshanox
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I wouldnt do any fish in a 5g. Maybe a clown goby actually. maybe even two? but no firefish, clowns, grammas, etc. Sexy shrimp would be fine. just remember, 5g tanks leave you no wiggle room, you're really going to have to stay on top of your water quality.
worrballer
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FTS of the new tank. Ya I know I need backing, I hate the look with out it. Also the bio balls are from my friends nano tank to help cycle or get good algae or something; they're probably coming out tonight.
I've got the AquaClear 100 for filtration and the coralife dual compact fluorescent. For whatever reason my friend got the 12" a while back but it does a good job lighting the tank.
Is that enough lighting for Xenia, star polyps, and zoos?