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salt_chick

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Hello everyone! My name is Melissa, I recently purchased a 29 gallon Biocube.
I have some saltwater experience, but its been a few years. I stumbled across this site and it really made me want to get back into it. So here I am.
Any advice would be great. I set up the tank yesterday and put Live Sand and just a 5 pound piece of Live Rock.
My first question would be how long does it take for the tankto clear up?
It's defintely not as cloudy as it was yesterday since I can see the Lve Rock now, but it is still cloudy.
I have about 20 pounds of Live Sand should I add more?
Thanks for all your help in advance!!
 

perfectdark

Active Member
Originally Posted by salt_chick
http:///forum/post/2549629
Hello everyone! My name is Melissa, I recently purchased a 29 gallon Biocube.
I have some saltwater experience, but its been a few years. I stumbled across this site and it really made me want to get back into it. So here I am.
Any advice would be great. I set up the tank yesterday and put Live Sand and just a 5 pound piece of Live Rock.
My first question would be how long does it take for the tankto clear up?
It's defintely not as cloudy as it was yesterday since I can see the Lve Rock now, but it is still cloudy.
I have about 20 pounds of Live Sand should I add more?
Thanks for all your help in advance!!
Hi Mellissa welcome to the boards....

There are tons of nano tank owners on this board and many of them are cube tank owners. There are many things you can do to your cube tank as far as modifications go. After some time you may see things you dont like or experience and issue that has a small fix to it, which you can find here. Many of us myself included have modified our tanks to some extent to help make it more effiecient.
Your tank will clear up in a few days, I would suggest that you purchase all of the live rock you want for your tank and add it while the tank is cycling. The typical amount for a reef tank is anywhere from 1 to 2 lbs a gal. I have about 35lbs in my 29gal cube. IMO as part of the necessity list when just starting is a good liquid test kit. One for Nitrate, Nitrite, amonia, pH and alkalinity. Also for testing the salinity of your water its recomended to use a refracometer instead of a hydrometer, (just a guess that you have a hydrometer). And FWIW the first modifications people do to these tanks is upgrade the return pump to a lager one with more gph output. And they add an additional power head to the display tank for added current. Feel free to ask us anything.
 

salt_chick

New Member
Thank you for all your help! Plan on buying the liquid test kit today. And hopefullly some more live rock.
Should I stay away from live rock with growth on it? I wouldn't want to put it in to early.
I keep reading to remove the bio balls and sponge is that something I should do? I know I would put live rock in place of the balls, but what would replace the sponge?
And what chemicals would you suggest adding to the tank?
Thanks again!!
 

spanko

Active Member
Originally Posted by salt_chick
http:///forum/post/2549689
Thank you for all your help! Plan on buying the liquid test kit today. And hopefullly some more live rock.
Should I stay away from live rock with growth on it? I wouldn't want to put it in to early.Look for some good bare rock with color to it that smells of the ocean not death.
I keep reading to remove the bio balls and sponge is that something I should do? Most everyond has removed the bio balls, some have left the sponge. Whatever you do know that if you leave both in there you need to be very strict with your maintenance to keep them clean. I have removed both myself. I have a bag or Purigen and a bag of Chemipure Elite in where the bio balls were along with my heater and a large clump of Chaeto algae for nutreint export.I know I would put live rock in place of the balls, but what would replace the sponge?This would not be needed and again would cause a maintenance issue in my opinion. Just run some Chaeto with a small light over it and you will get better results than with the live rock in this chamber.
And what chemicals would you suggest adding to the tank?At this time none. Your water changes will do everything you need for now to keep your chemistry in balance.
Thanks again!!
Hello Melissa, I am in Chesterfield Township just north of Mt. Clemens. Welcome to SWF.com
What fish stores are you using?
 

perfectdark

Active Member
Originally Posted by salt_chick
http:///forum/post/2549689
Thank you for all your help! Plan on buying the liquid test kit today. And hopefullly some more live rock.
Should I stay away from live rock with growth on it? I wouldn't want to put it in to early.
I keep reading to remove the bio balls and sponge is that something I should do? I know I would put live rock in place of the balls, but what would replace the sponge?
And what chemicals would you suggest adding to the tank?
Thanks again!!
My first suggestion is to get the tank running as you do let it cycle as you are and in the mean time research and read. You are going to hear a lot of advice about what has been done to their tanks, take everything with a grain of salt and take things slowly. The fist thing I was told when I started was to ditch the bioballs too, but it took me 6 months before I decided to do it. In this time I read what it mean by the popular term "nitrate factory" I understood it so I could make my own decisions based on facts, not just suggestions. There are reasons we do these little modifications to our tanks. To briefly touch on a few, replacing the bioballs with LR rubble is not going to solve any issues that bioballs claim to have. Good tank husbandry is important with any biological filtration no matter what the media is made of. If you do not syphon the rear chambers of these little tanks out once in a while then it wont matter what is in there for media they will all trap detritus and particulates that can elevate your nitrates. As for the filter cartridges, you will find that the clog rather easily because of the sediment that gets pulled into the rear chambers. The need to be replaced, they are not cheap and there are not really that necessary IMO. I ditched mine but kept the little blue sponge in there from the middle to the last chamber.
When you add LR to your tank its not a bad idea to rinse it off in some salt water to get any packed on dirt or mud off, even lightly brush it. I wouldnt suggest getting LR with lots of fungal growth or unknown algae on it. Place all of your LR In your tank and then let your tank cycle. Test for amonia, nitrites and nitrates. Once your tank reaches 0 amonia and nitrites, you should have some readable nitrates. Its time for a water change, about 15% or so. wait a couple of days and then retest. If levels are still all 0 then your cycle has completed, if not then it is still cycling and in a week do another water change and retest.
Small nano tank maintanence is much more than larger tanks, they require at minimum a 10% water change weekly. This water change replaces all of your essential trace elements in your tank so there is no need to dose anything to your tank. IF you feel something is wrong its STRONGLY advised to never dose anything into your tank you do not test for. So if someone tells you to just add this stuff for rapid coraline algae growth. You would need to test for calcium first, if your levels are already at 400 to 450ppm dosing would be bad. Coraline algae boosts are basically calcium additives and can be dangerous to your system if too much is added. That was just an example but its a very important rule to remember.
 

salt_chick

New Member
Thank you guys some much! When I do my water changes would the water I add to the tank be fresh or salt?
Spanko - I go to Aquatic Discoveries, Oceans and Sea's and a little place by my house called Stingray Bay.
And I did testing today and everything is right on.
 

perfectdark

Active Member
Originally Posted by salt_chick
http:///forum/post/2550916
Thank you guys some much! When I do my water changes would the water I add to the tank be fresh or salt?
Spanko - I go to Aquatic Discoveries, Oceans and Sea's and a little place by my house called Stingray Bay.
And I did testing today and everything is right on.
When you do water changes you use salt water to add back to the tank. Make sure you mix your salt water in a separate container, and let it airate at least 24 hours before use. Also its important to match your tanks temperature too so placing a small heater in the container is advised.
When you top off your tank from evaporation you use fresh water because the salt in your tank never evaporates.
To help you further, you may want to post your specific levels when you test. If you are testing on your own it will help us explain that although you maybe in the correct range there maybe somthing that might have to come up and you may not know it. If your LFS tested its even more important for you to post specific results as LFS are far too notorious for telling you every thing is fine but, in reality they are not.
 
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