nfl playoffs

[scubadoo]

Chicago enters the playoffs with a young untested playoff QB. Much like you saw Simms throwing two interceptions and Manning throwing three....young inexperienced QB's sometimes simply commit TO's in the pressure cooker called the nfl playoffs.
That being said, big edge to Carolina defense over the Chicago offense. A Slight edge to Chicago defense over the Carolina offesnse.
Special teams edge to Carolina.
Intangibles...coaching edge to Carolina,
Key to the game....Rex Grossman commits key TO or TO's that could lead to a TD or TD's.
Weather could even things out and play a part. Chicago must hold Carolina to 14 or fewer points. Unless they do...and it is not likely unless wether is a factor ....Carolina will advance to the nfc championship.
Carolina has the most talent accross the board in the nfc. The Panthers will win two of the three phases. Unless Chicago can set-up the offense on a very short fiiels...and/or score points..... plus the Chicago special teams doing the same....Carolina will win.

 

[scubadoo]

The Pats playoff parade comes to an end this weekend. The patchwork secondary and offensive line will be exposed and the float runs out of gas.
The Pat being the benficaiaries of playing in a week divison this year will be obvious this weekend.
They will need to provide consistent pressure on Plummer in order to provide the secondary with a short coverage period. I don't see this happening.
Home field advantage to Denver and Intangible to the Pats. Special teams edge to Pats.
Denver should win meaning the #1 and 2 seeds advancing to the championship. The holes in the Pats offense adn defense will be exposed.

 

[turningtim]

Thank you scuba for an intellegent responce and bringing something to the disscussion. And I have to agree with you! But I will add that Chicago better cover Smith and if Foster has a decent game the bears can't play catch up.
The problem with pressure on Plummer is that the Bronco have 2 backs that can hurt them. Anderson will beat them down and by the 2nd half the Pats at altitude will be weak and then comes a fresh set of legs with Bell. Plummer can not throw picks and just protect the ball.....

 

[mitzel]

Originally Posted by puffer24/7
i can understand why you said that, but i think i just schooled him

You have to first have knowlage of something before you can school others.

 

[scubadoo]

The Indy machine gets cranked up again and will beat the Steelers. Look for the first half to be close with the Steelers blitzing. Half time adjustments and the Colts win by double digits.
Talent plus coaching wins this one. Too much talent on Seattle and good coaching. ALthough coaching is strong for the Skins...it will not be enough to overcome. the talent advantage of the Seahawks.
Seattle takes on the smoke and mirrors team. The Bucs are still trying to figure out how they lost that game. Two dominating defenses with one taking advantage of the oppurtunities,. The game was taken from the Bucs but I doubt you will see a repeat this weekend.
The mirrors will be cracked and Gibbs will run out of smoke to blow. The knee appears to be bothering Brunell...they'll need a big game from him but he may not be able to produce due to the injury. Unless the Skins defensive front 7 contains Alexander......the Seahawks will win big.

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by TurningTim
Thank you scuba for an intellegent responce and bringing something to the disscussion. And I have to agree with you! But I will add that Chicago better cover Smith and if Foster has a decent game the bears can't play catch up.
The problem with pressure on Plummer is that the Bronco have 2 backs that can hurt them. Anderson will beat them down and by the 2nd half the Pats at altitude will be weak and then comes a fresh set of legs with Bell. Plummer can not throw picks and just protect the ball.....
yes, Plummer is known for making some poor decisions under pressure. IMO...even if he makes a mistake or two the Broncos may still be able to overcome some mistakes.
The Patriots are a good team...but they simply have two many holes this year due to injuries. The holes will be exposed by the better team they face this week.
Perhaps ole Bill will pull a rabbit out of his hat on the defensive side of the ball. You never can totally count the Pats out due to the man on the sidelines. You jsut never know what he will come up with...could be an equalizer.

 

[turningtim]

I agree with the bill thing but shannahan may also be doing something different, hes had two weeks and I gotta beleave he was favoring the Pats last week. Running the ball, play action rolls and posession of the ball. no TOs Broncos can win.
Skins can stop, well contain alexsander but I still don't think thats enough. Unless portis has just a stupid career game or something and Brunel doesn't make any mistakes, I just don't see it. Gibbs skins are 1-2 years away.

 

[jmick]

That being said, big edge to Carolina defense over the Chicago offense. A Slight edge to Chicago defense over the Carolina offesnse. QUOTE]
You must not have seen the first game played between these two teams. Chicago’s defense manhandled the Carolina offense (8 sacks and 2 interceptions). Chicago has the best defense in the league and Carolina will have hard time running the ball and if they are able to make Carolina 1 dimensional as they did in the first meeting it will be a long afternoon for the Carolina QB.
It’s hard to predict what we will see with Chicago’s offense because it is a different unit with Rex in there (he has the ability to make the big throws) and I think Carolina will try to take away the run and Rex will have to make some plays (can he do it? I’m not sure). I think this is going to be a close ball game and will likely be a game of field position.

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
That being said, big edge to Carolina defense over the Chicago offense. A Slight edge to Chicago defense over the Carolina offesnse. QUOTE]
You must not have seen the first game played between these two teams. Chicago’s defense manhandled the Carolina offense (8 sacks and 2 interceptions). Chicago has the best defense in the league and Carolina will have hard time running the ball and if they are able to make Carolina 1 dimensional as they did in the first meeting it will be a long afternoon for the Carolina QB.
It’s hard to predict what we will see with Chicago’s offense because it is a different unit with Rex in there (he has the ability to make the big throws) and I think Carolina will try to take away the run and Rex will have to make some plays (can he do it? I’m not sure). I think this is going to be a close ball game and will likely be a game of field position.

The level of play is elevated in the playoffs. Carolina has better overall talent than Chicago. It is also difficult to beat a good team twice in a season. Chicago is a one dimensional team. Their offense simpy is not capable of putting significant points on the board.
Yes, Chicago has a very good defense...but their offense pulls them closer if not behind Carloina overall in talent.
Rex Grossman has yet to be tested in a pressure playoff game. Much like this past weekend, young QBs often make mistakes that are costly.
Pitt went 15-1 last year, and Big Ben made key mistakes against the Jets (Brien missed a field goal after the TO) and the Pats in the playoffs last year.
Grossman or Orton...does not matter...Edge to Carolina....just an overall better team regardless of the first game played. Also, it is difficult to beat a team twice in the same year when they have overall better talent than Chicago . JMO
Level of play is elevated....Chicago one and done.....they will be better next year.

 

[jmick]

Yes, I do agree with you that Carolina does have better talent on the offensive side (Chicago’s offensive has been anemic all year). I think Lovie and his guys are going to come up with a very conservative game plan to limit their turnovers and because of that, I think this game is going to be very close and if Chicago’s D can come up with a few turnovers or a score they will win.
I think over the next few years Chicago is going to turn into a very scary team (they have all their key defensive guys signed for the next 3-4 years) and if they can turn around the offensive they will be very good.

 

[darth tang]

I am curious why Puffer felt the need to start ANOTHER playoff thread................we already had one.

 

[semaj]

Let's not forget that Orton played the first time Chi played Carolina. Rex is a much better QB. Our stats on offensive have been weak but they've been playin with a rookie QB that was supposed to be riding the bench this year.
Bears 28
Panthers 17

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by Darth Tang
I am curious why Puffer felt the need to start ANOTHER playoff thread................we already had one.
It was closed as he resorted to name calling as did another poster...profanity disguised as code words and abbreviations too.
As the usual MO...any disagreement with his view and you are a punk, fagot, etc, etc.
Really all the valuable discussion was gone. it will appear here agaiin only I for one will not give it any validity.

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by Semaj
Let's not forget that Orton played the first time Chi played Carolina. Rex is a much better QB. Our stats on offensive have been weak but they've been playin with a rookie QB that was supposed to be riding the bench this year.
Bears 28
Panthers 17
I respectfully disagree...but their defense could keep it close ...meaning the Bears defense. A defensive score plus a big special teams play/score and they could take the game.
Bad weather too could be the equalizer. I doubt they can score 28 points on the Carolina D....and that is with a D TD and a ST TD too.
For the Bears to have a good chance...they need to hold Carolina in the low teens. 14 points by Carolina could be enough.
Sometimes when you have a rookie QB you have a tendency to pass less, run more, and play tougher defense. The Bears will have to enter the game with this plan IMO. ...even with Grossman at QB.
I do not see 28 points next to Chicago....but they can win the game if it is low scoring.
I for one do not pay too much attention to regular season games between the same teams. We all know the second season is a different story.
I do stand by my opinion that Carolina has the best overall talent in the nfc. Sometimes talent alone is not enough. Either way I hope for a close game...makes it interesting.
All valid points you have...one of us will be right and the other wrong.
I would agree that grossman is a better QB...but a change in offensive philosophy may back fire on the Bears...should they decide to open up the offense.
Mohammed will have something to prove against his old team...so it could be interesting.

 

[jmick]

I hope they don’t open the offense up against Carolina, I think that’d be a huge mistake. The Bears need to do what they’ve done all year, play stout defense and run the ball. If they win I expect the score will be closer to 13-10. Unfortunately, the weather on Sunday is supposed to be sunny with temps in the 30’s, which is great football weather (I hope their wrong and the temp drops to 5 with a wind chill of negative 20).

 

[puffer24/7]

Originally Posted by TurningTim
Ummm... I hate to break this to you but you picked the bucs and they lost! So there is no kinda involved!
Next, Who has the better record? Who has home field? Who is undefeated at home? Who has the better rushing attack? Who has the better defense?
Who will be missing their STAR running back and emotional leader on D? Who's line-up has been more depleated by injuries and free agentcy?
You come with only opinions not stats! If you rely on your tremendous football knowledge, That has already failed you. It is also mighty easy for sombody of your age to pick the team that has won the past couple years and not have knowledge of the game before 1995.
No offence puff but you need to learn that just b/c you play doesn't mean others haven't and that I have been around the game A LOT more than you. I was PLAYING the game 15 years before you were born and have followed the NFL for the better part of 30 years.
So please don't think in terms of right and wrong. This is a discussion and if you would make a valid point I would listen. But don't just think your right! One thing I have learned is any team can win any game on any given day!
You got a long way to go to school me Son
Scuba you are correct, but I also state in my post that the colts will beat the steelers. in my opinion!
you must be joking, regular season means nothing, get it, means nothing, who can even compare to the pats in playoff situations, no one, get it, no one, and i picked the bucs bc they are my team and i stick by my team no matter what and would have loved to have seen the bucs and the pats play but knowing that the pats would beat us,so pleas dont come around here and try to outsmart me by bringing the regular season into the picture when it comes to the playoffs, bc the regular season means nothing what so ever, just to let you know did you not just see the pats against the jags who had won 8 of there last 9 games, obviously not, by the way pats are my second team

 

[puffer24/7]

as far as the valid point goes, how many rings does brady have and the rest of his fellow players....ummmmm....and how many rings do the other players have in the playoffs right now? and as far as stats go the pats stats speak for themselves, i dont have to explain them like the other sorry teams in the playoffs right now with the exception of the colts

 

[puffer24/7]

and for the colts, imo they will be lucky to get passed the steelers for the simple fact that the colts have not played a meaningful game in over 6 weeks, and 6 weeks speaks for itself

 

[ruaround]

puffer... the regular season does mean Everything... if your record isnt good enough to get you into the playoffs then where are you??? AT HOME wishing you had a better regular season... I would hate to argue with a fellow Bucs fan, but there are teams from the past that would match up to the Pats ... but we will never know ... just remember "on any given sunday anyone can be beat"

 

[puffer24/7]

dude once your in your in, who cares, the playoffs are a whole diff game alltogether,ask anyone who plays the game