Nitrate issue and BTA

stimpy4242

Member
My nitrates are around 40 and have been there for a couple weeks. I don't need anyone to tell me to do water changes or that its a high nitrate level, i need to know if that level will definitely cause my new BTA which had been big and open to be shriveled and tiny for the past two weeks...and assuming that it won't die would bringing nitrates back to 0 make it come back?
That is the question, also are there other specific parameters that really effect anemones?
 

lexluethar

Active Member
Well i honestly don't know what you want people to say. Of course 0 nitrates would be ideal for any specimin. I won't say to do water changes, but i will say look at other factors in your tank, although water changes reduces nitrates, if they are at an unusually high level and water changes aren't fixing it, look at other factors causing your issue. Overstock? Not enough filtration? Not changing filter pads enough? Feeding too much? Add too much at one time? Something died lately? You get the point...
IMO 40 is too high for a BTA, i think around 10 and you will be find, but prolonged exposure to anything above say 10 or 15 will definately stress an anemone, and will eventually kill it. Yes i do feel that the water could be a factor in why your anemone is shrivled. I don't know how long it was "big and open" for, so that could be because of inadequate lighting too - but i don't know your setup.
In order to maintain a healthy anemone, you need to keep track of...
Am
Ni
NA (Most improtant)
Ph (consistency is more important than the number, >7.7)
SG (Second most important)
Temp
Copper if you have the kit, but usually you can tell if you are having issue keeping inverts look to copper or a low SG to be the culprit.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by stimpy4242
http:///forum/post/2502489
My nitrates are around 40 and have been there for a couple weeks. I don't need anyone to tell me to do water changes or that its a high nitrate level, i need to know if that level will definitely cause my new BTA which had been big and open to be shriveled and tiny for the past two weeks...and assuming that it won't die would bringing nitrates back to 0 make it come back?
That is the question, also are there other specific parameters that really effect anemones?
Sorry, not sure what you are specifically asking.
Yes, high Nitrates affect inverts, including anemones. So if your anemone is not doing well, and Nitrates seem to be the only thing wrong with your water then I would say address the Nitrate issue and go from there.
Sorry. I know that's not much to go on, but I think that's about all we can say at this point.
 

perfectdark

Active Member
If your nitrate level was 0 to 10 ppm with a happy BTA and suddenly shot up to the 40 that its at right now, then yes it can cause stress to your anemone. However if 40ppm is what you have established as normal for your system and your BTA has been living happily at those levels your bta wouldnt become affected by it just all of a sudden. IMO it would have to be a quick drastic change in nitrates. I have had my trates all over the board in the past and 40 was a norm for me for a while. My RBTA has been unaffected by any of it. JMO. I have had it almost 10 months now.
 

stimpy4242

Member
Thank you these are the replies I was looking for. I didn't want people to say stuff about water changes, because I know that will lower my nitrates and I have not had the ability to do one in some time...so i think that is the issues, nitrates were low and have been gradually increasing since I haven't done changes. Lighting is just fine, everything else is fine...I will be getting my pump fixed friday...thank you for the input.
 

perfectdark

Active Member
It appears to be in tough shape IMO. Mouth gaping open is not a good sign, over all general appearance is also not healthy. Very shrunken, deflated, tenticles retracted... Keep a very close eye on it and be prepared to remove it quickly.
 

stimpy4242

Member
So it has been at the top of the reef all day, and actually looks better than this morning, the tentacles are slightly more inflated, mouth closing up. I will post pictures tomorrow.
 

lexluethar

Active Member
Keep us posted. It looked like it was attached to the rockwork, so if it detaches then i would take it out (since it is in bad shape anyways i think ones it lets go of the rock it probably is dead).
 

spiderwoman

Active Member
Originally Posted by stimpy4242
http:///forum/post/2503976
I didn't want people to say stuff about water changes, because I know that will lower my nitrates and I have not had the ability to do one in some time...so i think that is the issues, nitrates were low and have been gradually increasing since I haven't done changes.
When was the last time you did a water change?
 

stimpy4242

Member
Ok so i sorta retarded its recovery, by pulling it off the rockwork a moment ago. it had reattached itself pretty well and i slowly took it off because i placed it on top of the rock it was on after rotating that rock and I needed to put the rock back. We will see what happens...right now it is not attached...but at least my rockwork is back to the way it was.
 

stimpy4242

Member
All I can say is I GIVE UP. So it started to look better when it was out of its cave and it has slowly crawled back up under the rock again...where it is beginning to degrade...so I guess it is just comitting suicide...i don't know what else to do...when I move it back out it goes back in and when it is in, it doesn't get light and begins to wither...
 

lexluethar

Active Member
If it is dicenegrating and non-responsive to things touching it, then it is dead. I think your best bet is to lower your nitrates to around 10, and get them to stay there. Mine stay there because of weekly water changes.
I'm not sure of the other variables in your tank - you could have everything right (lights / flow) and it could still die. My first one did, reason being because of a bad purchase. It looked like crap, it was dyed, and ended up dying two days after purchase. Do your research, make sure you buy a heathly specimine, and hopefully you will have better luck next time.
 
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