nitrates

shobby

Member
Need help with nitrates, aquarium has been set up for years, fought the nitrates and won. It was never 0 but after fighting it, it was maybe ten. Been that way for last few years, checked the other day and it is off the charts. Very high. 55 gal, changed out 24 gal and came back an hour later changed out 12 more gallons. Next to days nitrates were 0, did not check yesterday, looked this morning and off the charts yet again. What is going on? Only fed them one time in the last three days.
I do have a lot of these star fish looking things that are small with really no shape, could they be adding to the nitrate problem, nitite and ammonia are both at 0. I am at a loss as to what is going on.
Shelley
 

btldreef

Moderator
Those starfish (Asterina) do thrive when there are extra nutrients in the tank, so they are certainly an indicator that something is going on when you have an abundance of them.
So some questions:
What type of filtration? (Sump/refugium/chemical/etc)
What inhabitants?
What do you feed? How much? How often?
How often do you do scheduled water changes?
Any deaths?
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
No, living starfish can not cause nitrates.
If you have crushed coral, gravel vac it really well, half one day , half the next week. Then, replace it with dry sand.
If you have sand in the tank already, very lightly gravel vac it with really low flow and be careful. You will get some very dark brown/black stuff out. Starting fresh is good, and will balance your aquarium out again.
Water changes do not clean out the goop that gets clogged in your sand bed, in your filters and other crevices. If you have filters, change out half of them. If you have a canister filter, do your regular monthly maintenance on it. Change your carbon out once a month. (every 30 days)
If you don't have macroalgae, get some macroalgae for the display tank and add a decent light fixture. If you have a sump, add macroalgae to the sump portion that doesn't house your return pump. Add a clip on light from wal-mart and harvest the macroalgae often. The higher the intensity the light bulb in the clip, the better - the macro will grow faster, especially with as much nitrate as you say you do.
Another option is to buy a better protein skimmer. Obviously the one you are using right now isn't working very well - so change it or get it working properly again. A good skimmer should pull out a whole cup of skimmate once every three days.
Another option is to research and use an algae scrubber. A properly built algae scrubber will reduce or eliminate nitrate and phosphate through the natural means of growing hair algae on a screen. (please consider this option, and consider building it inside a 5.5 to a 10g tank instead of free standing.) You'll understand these directions if you research algae scrubbers.
Another thing that someone in a few minutes is going to mention is to double and tripple check your test kits. Test kits are more often wrong than right when it comes to testing for nitrate and phosphate. If your test kits are old or stored improperly, you could be looking at inaccurate readings. Double check it with your live fish store and see if there are any discrepencies. If they are wrong, consider getting Seachem test kits, Red Sea test kits or better yet - Salifert test kits. The quality of the test kit depends on how much you pay for it. If you want accurate readings, you will pay...
Instead of saying "high" and "low" Post your actual results and readings.
What livestock do you have? How long has the tank actually been set up? What substrate are you using? What kind of filtration are you using? Etc. Etc. Etc. .
 

shobby

Member
No no deaths yet, but a coral. that was my indicator that something was up. I have the kenya tree coral that has taken over the tank, even cut some and the stubs regrew. Have green stars, a firefox coral(or something like that) mushrooms, a feather duster, sea urchin, two gobies, tiger pistol shrimp. 2 tangs, 1 clown, 1 sixline, and a royal gamma. Crabs and snails, I see little snails at night, and several of those funky shapes. I have a sump and three koralia power heads.I usually feed pellets, changed type though several months ago, not sure why. Every once in a while I feed them myosis shrimp, and I usually feed every other day, a pinch or two. I have rock in the sump as well as bio balls. and chaeto in sump.
No real schedule on water changes.
Shelley
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Hi,
I used to think that everytime my leather shed it was because of nitrates...I didn't realize leathers shed.
What test kits are you using?...I had off the chart nitrates in 2009 and went crazy trying to fix it...like you, the very next day after a water change the nitrates would be off the chart high. Yet my little cleaner shrimp was alive and well. Snails, shrimp and feather dusters die when nitrates are really high.
Turns out that my API test kit that I had just opened was out of date...and giving the wrong readings.....after I changed to a sump system from a canister, and did daily water changes and got an Aquaripure filter. The API said my nitrates were 80+...I got a seachem kit and nitrates were a 1, now they are 0 and stay there....I like the Aquaripure and put another one on my seahorse tank.
Also, I would not feed pellets or flake...phosphates are worse than nitrates, and both of those are problemn foods for that.
 

shobby

Member
I use apw test kiti, thought that maybe the test kit was out but I tested fresh made water and it was 0. Maybe I will but a new test kit and go from there.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by shobby http:///t/389749/nitrates#post_3447096
Sorry typo API
Then my friend...we may have solved your mystery. API test kits are terrible for messing up the nitrates readings. Use another brand. I went with Seachem, they have a test solution to be sure your readings are correct that comes with every test.
 
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