No more water changes?

thedealer

Member
Hello everone yesterday I drove three hours to Teere Haute Indiana. I went to a place called Inland Aqatics They claim to have the largest coral reef display,They have 35,000 gallons of salt water. Here is the catch they dont/never do water changes. They have a filration system thats called an algal turf scrubber. They had several types of systems some for a 55 gal ref and otheres like 5000gal. My question is why is this not the type of filtration every one is using?
 

ninjamini

Active Member
Just cuz it works does not mean that its the best way to do a thing.
If you wanted to monitor and dose all the elements that our reefs need then theoretically you would not need to change water. But this is to hard to do and the test kits + the elements would cost more. Not to mention that changing water is a great way to export the nasty stuff.
But yes if you had a big honkin skimmer + cheato + phosban +++ and test for and add elements as needed then I guess it would work...but for how long.
There is also the possibility that they may be feeding you a line of bs to make the sale. Wait that sounds more probable. Ask them to see the system they are talking about and take a picture or write down the model numbers. That way we can debunk it.
 

thedealer

Member
thanks for responding, these co. doesnt have a skimmer at all, and they dont use any addivatives as well. check them out there is even an 800 nuber u can call them at
 

ninjamini

Active Member
Found this: If thats all they do bad idea. Might be ok for fish only but a reef needs stuff. They might also do the famous Reef looks great but that corals only been in there for a week then we sell it and put in another.
Algal Turf Scrubbing is a solar/algal technology that utilizes attached, primarily filamentous algae of many genera and species to capture the energy of sunlight and build algal biomass from CO2. A highly efficient capturer of nutrients from fresh, brackish, and sea water, and a wide variety of waste and industrially-polluted waters, ATS performs point and non-point water cleaning services from aquarium to landscape scales. By combining algal-produced oxygen, at super-saturated levels, with solar or artificial UV, many toxic, organic compounds can be degraded by ATS systems.
Fig 1. Diverse algal turf of green algae, diatoms and a red alga from an ATS test plant cleaning a farm canal in the Florida Everglades.
WATER PARAMETER
CONTROL
In model ecosystems
POINT-SOURCE TREATMENT
at commercial levels
SCALED-UP
to non-point source
with global potential
ATS produces a low cost harvestable algal biomass at an order of magnitude greater rate than agricultural and forestry products at the same latitude. Currently used commercially to sequester nutrients while producing cattle fodder and soil amendments, the ATS algal product can also be converted to paper and construction materials and can be used to sequester carbon and heavy metals as well as break-down toxic hydrocarbons. ATS-produced algae can be converted to energy products such as biodiesel, gasohol and methane.
 

teen

Active Member
im pretty sure atlantis marine world on LI has the largest reef display in the U.S.
 

ninjamini

Active Member
Originally Posted by teen
im pretty sure atlantis marine world on LI has the largest reef display in the U.S.
How about the US parks service. John pennycamp?
 
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kellen85

Guest
hello everyone. i go to this store a lot i live less than a hour away from their filtration was actually designed and patented by the smithsonian institute. thay have three or four huge tubs at about 2000g or more that look like they came right out of the ocean. the filter for those are about 50 cubic ft. or more. they sell tanks with these types of filters built into them. suposedly no wter changes are needed
 
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kellen85

Guest
they also have a website. i think it's inlandaquatics.com. they add things to their water aswell. i don't know who this guy talked to but some of their employees are kinda dumn. the owner is really cool though.
 

emm0909

Member
You could clean out the water really well but you will starve the water of all trace elements eventually. That is one great thing that water changes bring back to the tank. Now, if you were adding all minerals back in to the water then I don't see how it couldn't work. I like water changes though. Well.... I hate doing them. But I feel good after they are done.
 
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