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tizzo

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I used to work at the level 5 trauma hospital here in Charlotte. I would install, troubleshoot and repair the phone lines. I also served as a mobile communications provider in the Army. At both jobs I had complete and limitless access to every phone conversation at any time. From confidential patient consults, to steamy, I miss you Donny, you've been away so long...
I would frequently have to listen to different terminals to assure that I had the one I was supposed to have. We'd clip on with that big orange phone you see on the hip of any phone guy then call the operator and ask her to ID our number. I have come accross conversations plenty and they all have one thing in common...they are boring!! It's like finding someone else's photo album. You may flip through outa curiosity, but it's always boring. So about this agency screening your calls, you can prolly rest assure that as soon as they hear "Yeah, uncle Alfred just got outa the hospital" they just pass you by...
As far as some privacy "right" we all think we have, I like to compare the phone lines to the highway. It doesn't belong to you, you pay to use the service, and yes it's prolly being monitored.
So my point is to remind all of you that nobody really cares about your convos...
 
ruaround

ruaround

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what agency is screening phone calls??? are you talking about the government tapping lines on suspected terrorists???
 
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tizzo

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Yeah, I just saw this thing on MSNBC that said 46% of the population is totally against it, and that it "violates" their privacy.
NSA I think they said??
 
ruaround

ruaround

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I think the problem with this is the fact that they sigled out people, with out a warrent or evidence...went off of speculation...
If it makes the world a safer place gofferit... like you said anyone could spy on anyone at anytime... every once in a while my cordless will pick up a neighbors frequency and like you said it is the photo album syndrome...if you dont have anything to hide why worry???
 
1journeyman

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It's the NSA.. and as far as I've heard the calls that were monitored all had an international caller on one end. Also, the NSA has monitoring sites outside of the USA; both conditions circumvent any Constitutional protection as far as I know.
 
lovethesea

lovethesea

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Originally Posted by Tizzo
Yeah, I just saw this thing on MSNBC that said 46% of the population is totally against it, and that it "violates" their privacy.
NSA I think they said??

And the second we are bombed, attacked, poisoned, held hostage...etc... everyone of those 46% thats against it would all rise up and scream that we didn't do enough to protect and serve "the people". Nothings free anymore, we just have to pick our battles.
BTW, I have always wondered wheat the phone guy at the corner thinks when he is working on the phone box. He's GOTTA hear some funny stuff.
 
lovethesea

lovethesea

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a friend of mine had an issure with an old cordless phone and the nieghbors baby monitor.
:scared: She still wonders what they heard.
 
oficedepot

oficedepot

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when i was in college we lived in an apartment complex. we used to pick up the phone and heard conversations of our neighbors. once i picked up and heard phone ---. it rocked. i hope they enjoyed mine too :hilarious
 
jds31788

jds31788

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yeah they only people who should be concerned are people who need to be monitored anyway.. llike drug dealers.. so
logically.. 46% of our population deals drugs.. :joy:
 
darth tang

darth tang

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
It's the NSA.. and as far as I've heard the calls that were monitored all had an international caller on one end. Also, the NSA has monitoring sites outside of the USA; both conditions circumvent any Constitutional protection as far as I know.
This was actually brought up in the Presidential debates back in 2004. I bet no one remembers it though. Kerry brought it up. a question was asked what he would do to further insure national security against terrorist attacks. Basically he said we had 100s of hours of taped conversations authorized by the president and he felt this wasn't enough and that we should be monitoring more conversations. To aid in preventing another terorist attack.
I wonder what changed between then and now for him?
 
oficedepot

oficedepot

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Originally Posted by Tizzo
As far as some privacy "right" we all think we have, I like to compare the phone lines to the highway. It doesn't belong to you, you pay to use the service, and yes it's prolly being monitored.
ah so much is clear.
do you remember when mimzy's landlord came into her apartment without permission while she was in the shower? by the same token, she did not own the apartment, she paid to use the room. so it was perfectly legal for the landlord to "monitor" her?
you need to think these things through with that kind of logic, izzo
 
nflnutswif

nflnutswif

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I honestly don't know the legalities, but the problem from what I understanad is that those conversations had authorizations or warrents to obtain. The conversations being obtained now have not had the legal warrents issued. Therefore some are screaming that our government is above the law and illegaly violating privacy by tapping into conversations. My personal opinion is, the government is not interested in my phone conversation to mom and dad in So. Cal. Or my phone conversations to to tell my husband I love him and what does he want for dinner tonight! It's those suspicious overseas calls that might put our friends and families in danger by terrorists.
Tap away I say!
 
lovethesea

lovethesea

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Originally Posted by OficeDepot
ah so much is clear.
do you remember when mimzy's landlord came into her apartment without permission while she was in the shower? by the same token, she did not own the apartment, she paid to use the room. so it was perfectly legal for the landlord to "monitor" her?
you need to think these things through with that kind of logic, izzo

Phone lines are not private property. Mimzy's landlord was not monitoring her. He was coming in un-announced to care for the pest control/heat/dripping faucet. That is not allowed by normal standards and could be considered breaking and entering. Your home cannont be monitored unless there is casue. Your right to privacy is and should be in your home. Phone lines are for all to use but not individually owned.
 
darth tang

darth tang

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Originally Posted by nflnutswif
I honestly don't know the legalities, but the problem from what I understanad is that those conversations had authorizations or warrents to obtain. The conversations being obtained now have not had the legal warrents issued. !
How do we know though? Could some of the tapes in question not be back from 2004 or even 2003? Just because it came out now, does not mean it happenned recentl;y or didn't happen a while ago also.
 
lovethesea

lovethesea

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She has your card/number. Its a waiting thing now. I say tomorrow. She is still trying to figure out what to do about it. (don't forget, she may be involved w/someone already)
 
lovethesea

lovethesea

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I don't think she would have said. She was probably a little taken back by the whole thing and a little surprised. Considering you left right away............
Your highjacking Tizz's thread..........
Give it a day ***)
 
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