Nobody cares about you, your paranoid.

oficedepot

Member
you trust the goverment to safeguard this information? :hilarious
however it wasn't the issue
it was aimed at those who said those who have nothing to hide should not hide.
well hell some people are just more private than others. that's why you install locks on your kids' doors so you don't run into them doing fun things.
 

lovethesea

Active Member
No, I said the gov't already has access to all our info. But, if we have nothing to hide, whats the prob.
My kids doors don't have locks on them
purposly done when knobs were replaed with new doors.
 

oficedepot

Member
my kids' rooms will have lock on the door
then again i don't have kids. there is evidence that i will become an overbearing parent
 

lovethesea

Active Member
Originally Posted by OficeDepot
my kids' rooms will have lock on the door
then again i don't have kids. there is evidence that i will become an overbearing parent

if this is true......they won't have a working lock on their doors.
 

darth tang

Active Member
Let's try it from a diferent angle. Many cities have cameras installed at stoplights. In hopes of catching people running red lights. You may not be the one that runs red lights, but this is a safe guard to protect you against those that do. Is this wrong? The phone call monitiring COMING IN THE US FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES is much the same thing. We know their is a problem so we are monitoring.
The camera only takes a picture if you are in the intersection. Much like the monitoring of phone calls are only enacted if you have key words used in your conversation.
 

oficedepot

Member
it will work. coz i will respect their privacy.
however if i caught them using drugs, i'd send them to the military.
the military would kill them for me so i wouldn't have to do it myself.
they would even be remembered as heroes
 
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tizzo

Guest
Originally Posted by OficeDepot
hey why don't you disclose your living address
you phone number
your social security
your financial statements
your health records
to us
bare it all, baby

if you have nothing to hide right?
3 outa 5 of those are public information anyway. And your health record are if they can affect another, like if you have aids then the law is required to tell everybody!!
he mimzy and the landlord thing, yes the landlord has a right to see her place. He does not have the right to see HER, that is why the 24 notice is issued.
The internet, the phone lines, and the highways, all simply means of convewnience for you, but still owned and operated by another.
 

fishzen

Member
Correct me if I’m wrong, but there are several federal judges that can give a warrant to any intelligence agency to start a wire tap, it’s almost a 24/7 ‘service’. No judge in the land will say no to a warrant petition if it can help stop terrorism. The issue should not be that certain people is being wire tapped (we know that already), but that there are certain check and balances being broken by this administration, and that without a warrant approved by a judge we do not know who’s being taped, does anyone remember Watergate?
 

darth tang

Active Member
Originally Posted by fishzen
The issue should not be that certain people is being wire tapped (we know that already), but that there are certain check and balances being broken by this administration, and that without a warrant approved by a judge we do not know who’s being taped, does anyone remember Watergate?
Clinton and his administration did it as well.
As did JFK in the beginning of his term. He authorized the FBI to do whatever it took to break the back of the KKK. This included illegal wire tapping amongst other things.
 

fishzen

Member
Originally Posted by Darth Tang
Clinton and his administration did it as well.
As did JFK in the beginning of his term. He authorized the FBI to do whatever it took to break the back of the KKK. This included illegal wire tapping amongst other things.
It's so funny to see the standard defense again... 'in the Clinton's days.....'
 

darth tang

Active Member
Nope, I am not using it as a defense. Just pointing out it is not just this administartion.
Here is your quote:
"but that there are certain check and balances being broken by this administration,"
All I am saying is if we condemn Bush and this administration...I want the others condemned and if Bush is placed on trial...I want Clinton to also stand trial. Fair is fair.
 

fishzen

Member
Originally Posted by Darth Tang
Nope, I am not using it as a defense. Just pointing out it is not just this administartion.
Here is your quote:
"but that there are certain check and balances being broken by this administration,"
All I am saying is if we condemn Bush and this administration...I want the others condemned and if Bush is placed on trial...I want Clinton to also stand trial. Fair is fair.
Stop living in the past dude, I doubt anyone is going on trial. A Republican controled congress absolved Clinton and a Republican controled congress would not impeach Bush.
 

socal57che

Active Member
Originally Posted by lovethesea
Phone lines are not private property. Mimzy's landlord was not monitoring her. He was coming in un-announced to care for the pest control/heat/dripping faucet. That is not allowed by normal standards and could be considered breaking and entering. Your home cannont be monitored unless there is casue. Your right to privacy is and should be in your home. Phone lines are for all to use but not individually owned.
Missouri is one of many states with no statutes regarding prior notice for a landlord to enter. I was once a landlord in MO. Texas is another with no such statute as well as about 10 other states.
 

socal57che

Active Member
here is a list copied from a link on the Housing and Urban Development (HUD) website
State Amount of notice required for landlord to enter
Alabama No statute
Alaska 24 Hours
Arizona Two Days
Arkansas No statute
California 24 Hours
Colorado No statute
Connecticut Reasonable notice
Delaware Two Days
District of Columbia No statute
Florida 12 Hours
Georgia No statute
Hawaii Two Days
Idaho No statute
Illinois No statute
Indiana No statute
Iowa 24 Hours
Kansas Reasonable notice
Kentucky Two Days
Louisiana No statute
Maine 24 Hours
Maryland No statute
Massachusetts No notice requirements in statute
Michigan No statute
Minnesota Reasonable notice
Mississippi No statute
Missouri No statute
Montana 24 Hours
Nebraska One Day
Nevada 24 Hours
New Hampshire Notice which is adequate under the circumstances
New Jersey No statute
New Mexico No notice requirements in statute
New York No statute
North Carolina No statute
North Dakota Reasonable notice
Ohio 24 Hours
Oklahoma One Day
Oregon 24 Hours
Pennsylvania No statute
Rhode Island Two Days
South Carolina 24 Hours
South Dakota No statute
Tennessee No notice requirements in statute
Texas No statute
Utah No notice requirements in statute
Vermont 48 Hours
Virginia Reasonable notice
Washington Two Days
West Virginia No statute
Wisconsin Reasonable notice
Wyoming No statute
 

lovethesea

Active Member
Well, I basically told my landlord that he surprised me, he would be getting a BIGGER surprise. NO, I don't believe most landlords would enter without first consulting the tenant.
Law or no law. Its generally for their own well being IMO..
my next landlord was fantastic. Even gave candy at Xmas.
 

socal57che

Active Member
Originally Posted by lovethesea
Well, I basically told my landlord that he surprised me, he would be getting a BIGGER surprise. NO, I don't believe most landlords would enter without first consulting the tenant.
Law or no law. Its generally for their own well being IMO..
my next landlord was fantastic. Even gave candy at Xmas.
I agree and never had an instance where I couldn't give at least a week. Some people are just messy and would like time to clean up.
I rent the apt I'm in now, but still own real estate in MO.
I wish all landlords were like me.
 
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