Noob questions

shrub125

Member
I'm getting a clear understanding of the keeping and maintaining of a salt water aquarium, and i have a few questions from my research.
My first question is about live rock.
When buying uncured live rock, how do you cure it? I have a brief understanding of it, but i'm not entirely sure about what it is doing to it, or how long it would take.
My second question is about corals. When buying a coral, how exactly do they package them for you, and how do you set them in your tank, oh and do you need to acclimate them?
Thankyou, answers are greatly apprieciated!
 

spanko

Active Member
I am sure you will get others to chime in here but I will give you my take on your question.
Curing live rock is a process to get all of the dead and decaying materials off either through the nitrification process and or by scrubbing the rock. Uncured live rock will normally be freshly shipped rock that has experienced some of the life on it to have died. This dead material if put directly into a functioning display tank could cause a significant ammonis spike that would be detrimental to the inhabitants of the tank. Two ways to cure the rock would be;
If in a new setup, scrub off the dead materials that you can see, rinse in new salt water, then put into the tank and cure right there.
If rock purchased to put into an already functioning tank do the same as above only put it into an alternate container of some type with a powerhead for circulation, perhaps a hang on filter and a heater to keep at temperature. Test for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates over the course of a few weeks just as you would do for a newly setup tank. when the ammonia and nitrite spike have completed, take the rock and rinse in some new saltwet and the place into the display tank.
The above explantations are an overview, and a mored detailed explantaion can be given if needed.
For me when purchasing coral they are usually put into a plastic bag the same way you would purchase a fish. I float the bag in the display to bring the bag water temperature to the same temperature as the display water for about 10-20 minutes. Then place the coral into the tank. You are going to get more information about dipping coral for pest removal, drip acclimating coral and probably some other things but what I have outlined above is what I have done in my tank.
Hope this helps a little and would encourage you to still get more infomration from other sources to develop a plan that fits your particular needs and or level of risk you want to take.
 

xcali1985

Active Member
Ok ill take a shot at this, remember this is all from personal research and experience and should not be the final end all be all. So don't run out and spend money on just my advice.
Are you talking about buying corals online or via LFS. Both are bagged although online they put them in a foam box with heat packs. Locally they usually put them into paper bags once they are in the plastic bag so they don't get direct sunlight.
I take a 5 gallon bucket with me and they gladly fill it with a few gallons of the tank water and place the corals in the bottom in an egg crate frame that i made to support and separate them.
Lets hit acclimation next. If you use the bucket method that I use its simple from here. Simply use an airline and create a gravity flow from your tank to the bucket with a knot in the airline so its a steady drip not a flow. I usually make sure the bucket is no more than 1/2 full to start this that way if I fill it it will be 50 store water 50 mine. I then add them to the tank.
If you do it via just the bags its different. First turn off tank lights, helps if you have a sump as I use to just turn off the sump light and place them in there and float them for 15 minutes which is usually what is needed for the bag and tank temps to sync. After that I use a syringe or a measuring cup and add 1/2 cup of water every 5 minutes, removing water first if I need to. I do this 4 times. After that I add them to the tank.
Now on to placing them into the tank, Turn off the tank lights, moonlights can stay on but be careful if you have other corals in already, some corals will extend tentacles at night and may sting or you can damage the coral itself if you hit them wrong. Anyways, place the corals at the lowest possible, SECURE place in the tank, I don't epoxy them just yet. Sometimes I rubberband them to a lower rock (carefully). Over the next week you want to experiment with different levels and flow areas of the tank to fine where the coral opens up the most and isn't thrashed around. Once you find that use an underwater compatible epoxy. I use mighty puddy. and place it in that spot.
Apply the mighty puddy is a little tricky at times but heres the best way to do it. Take the puddy and mend it blending the two layers together till its one solid color and then let it sit for a few minutes to start to curing process. Then while under water apply the epoxy to the rock, plug, or whatever the coral is attached to. Now shove that into the crack, hole, etc.
Never apply the epoxy directly to the corals as most times it will stick for a little while but the coral will develop a slime layer and remove itself from it. If the coral isn't attached to anything its best to rubberband it to a rock or such and let it attach itself.
Crazy glue is another way of attaching corals to a spot but I have never used it.
The live rock part im not as familiar with, basically what I do with my new LR is put it in a QT tank and wait for the spikes and once its done I add it to my DT, if no spike within 2 weeks I take it as being Cured.
 

ajar

New Member
Curing is a process of allowing bacterial and otherwise die off, so it doesn't kill your fish. To cure, you basically put the LR in a tank, or if you don't have a tank, a plastic CLEAN garbage container, then you do a 50% water change every day, scrubbing of the rocks, then when Ammonia and Nitrites have peaked and are at O your rock is cured.
Live corals are usually transported double bagged, and some times with a black, thick plastic liner to keep the bag from being cut.
Hope this helps and good luck!
 

shrub125

Member
All of this information is so helpful, thankyou so much.
If i have a new tank that has yet to cycle, could i possibly cure my live rock along with my tank at the same time?
And what are some simple corals that are good for a beginner, I really like zoos, and mushroom corals.
 

fretfreak13

Active Member
Yesm you can sure your rock in the tank, and yes zoos and shrooms are GREAT beginner coral. Also check out the leathers and softies. What kind of lights do you have? =)
Welcome to SWF, also!
 

shrub125

Member
I have crappy lights currently, and i would like reccomendations for better lights, that dont cost 6billion dollars, any ideas?
I have GE Aquarays fluorescent bulbs. I heard they werent very good, but they've been good for freshwater for many years.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Shrub125
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I have crappy lights currently, and i would like reccomendations for better lights, that dont cost 6billion dollars, any ideas?
I have GE Aquarays fluorescent bulbs. I heard they werent very good, but they've been good for freshwater for many years.

If you are willing to put in the time and study on how to keep them, there are corals that require no extra lights at all. They are a little harder to keep but worth it. Here are a couple of pictures Spanko posted once. I fell in love with the color, alas my lights are too bright. I spent $1000.00 on my lights a year ago, so I am not going to get rid of them now.

 
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